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Old 12-18-2005, 06:21 AM
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Self-Hating Jews Are Mentally Ill? It appears so. . . .

Self-Hating Jews, Self Hatred

http://www.yahoodi.com/peace/selfhatred.html

What is 'self-hatred'? How is it possible to hate and reject oneself or one's own people?

* There is little doubt that psychologically, racism is harmful to its victims. The most profound effect associated with situations of extreme degradation (such as is found under slavery or in concentration camps or in racist states like South Africa) is the acceptance by the oppressed group of the dominant group's definition of the situation. This is the phenomenon of self-hatred found, for example, in cases of Jewish anti-Semitism or in the acceptance by blacks of white aesthetic criteria of having straight hair or a light skin. Self-hatred is often accompanied by symptoms of apathy, anxiety, and depression or by forms of self-destructive escapist reactions such as alcoholism or drug addiction or, in extreme cases, by paranoid, schizophrenic or manic depressive psychoses. In such situations of extreme degradation then, the oppressed group frequently reacts in an 'intropunitive' fashion; that is, it turns its frustrations inwardly against the self or the 'in' group at large.

- from Racism And Its Effects, By Shreya Khatau, Bombay, India

* Beginning with George Herbert Mead's idea of the "looking-glass self," social psychology has assumed that one's self-image derives in large part from how one is viewed by others -- family, school, and the broader society. When those views are negative, people may internalize them, resulting in lower self-esteem -- or self-hatred, as it has been called. This theory was first applied to the experience of Jews, by Sigmund Freud and Bruno Bettelheim, but it was also soon applied to the experience of African-Americans, by Gordon Allport, Frantz Fanon, Kenneth Clark, and others.

- in The Atlantic Monthly, August 1999, "Thin Ice"

* Self-hate arises when the minority-group member, who takes so many of his values from the majority group, learns to think of himself in its terms. Because his group is strange in their eyes, he comes to believe himself strange. Since they look down on him, he begins to look down on himself, particularly on that which differentiates him. So, among Jews it was truly a compliment not to "look Jewish." Similarly, in the black community until recent years, the lighter one's skin, the higher one's social status was likely to be.2

- Eugene B. Borowitz, The Mask Jews Wear -- The Self-Deceptions of American Jewry, 1980

* The term identity rejection is used here to denote a state of psychic imbalance in which an aspect of identity, namely the fact of one's Jewish background, is not fully integrated or accepted by the self. So defined, it may range in occurrence from apathy or total indifference to complete rejection and denial.

- Jerry V. Diller, "Identity Rejection and Reawakening in the Jewish Community", Journal of Psychology and Judaism, Vol. 5, No. 1, Fall/Winter 1980

* How does one teach Jewish children that at a certain historical juncture their people were considered bacilli and eradicated like so much vermin? Can such a page of history be ingested without lacerating the Jewish self-image? No child willingly accepts membership in a community that has seemingly lost so radically. It is better to be the hero in history.

- Simon Wiesenthal Center Multimedia Learning Center Online
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I think self hating by any person is wrong. I think that he culture dictates how ppl think of their own culture or their parents culture. The culture also adopt what is the definiton of being in (blond hair, protestant, blues eyes, stright hair) Many ppl that live in areas that are dominated by one ethnic group will slowly adopt mannerisms of that group. I think some jews struggle with this b/c they live in white areas that are overwhelmingly christian
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Well it appears the orthodix jews don't like the fact that Jews don't flock to their religion which of course doesn't not teach assimilation. . . .not very PC. . in fact they call their cousins nasty names like : "Jews For Nothing"

http://www.kahane.org/meir/jews.html
Worse than the Jews for Christianity or Jews for Gurus or Jews for Marx are the Jews for Nothing ... Absolutely nothing of any value. The Jews of emptiness and vanities and shallowness and grossness and ugliness and beastiality. JEWS AND JEWS
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It appears they preach they should stay racially pure but the Goy can race mix with impunity. . .. that isn't very PC either. . .
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Well it appears the orthodix jews don't like the fact that Jews don't flock to their religion which of course doesn't not teach assimilation. . . .not very PC. . in fact they call their cousins nasty names like : "Jews For Nothing"

http://www.kahane.org/meir/jews.html
Worse than the Jews for Christianity or Jews for Gurus or Jews for Marx are the Jews for Nothing ... Absolutely nothing of any value. The Jews of emptiness and vanities and shallowness and grossness and ugliness and beastiality. JEWS AND JEWS
By Rabbi Meir Kahane

It appears they preach they should stay racially pure but the Goy can race mix with impunity. . .. that isn't very PC either. . .

I understand, but what is assimulation, dropping the religon and adapting the American standard of beauty? That what i got from reading the article. I've gotten ppl that tell me i'm not assimulated b/c I still speak spainsh and my family still celebrate Bolivian holidays
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On the subject of mental illness, Shamgar, would you go to a Christian counselor if the other Fundamentalist on the site advised you to?

(By the way, Boliviano, don't be surprised by anything that Shamgar writes.)
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I understand, but what is assimulation, dropping the religon and adapting the American standard of beauty? That what i got from reading the article. I've gotten ppl that tell me i'm not assimulated b/c I still speak spainsh and my family still celebrate Bolivian holidays
Ah they believe it is against their religious beliefs to interracial marry (assimilate) . . . now if a white man said that they would be called a racist, bigot etc. . . .but the jews (antichrists) are called "God's Chosen People" so no rules apply to them. .. they are the poster children for PC so you can't call them racist. . .
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I understand, but what is assimulation, dropping the religon and adapting the American standard of beauty? That what i got from reading the article. I've gotten ppl that tell me i'm not assimulated b/c I still speak spainsh and my family still celebrate Bolivian holidays
Ah they believe it is against their religious beliefs to interracial marry (assimilate) . . . now if a white man said that they would be called a racist, bigot etc. . . .but the jews (antichrists) are called "God's Chosen People" so no rules apply to them. .. they are the poster children for PC so you can't call them racist. . .
What wrong with not marrying outside the race or ethinicity. Many parents strongly object a person dating outside the race, that includes whites, blacks and latinos. If it is against their religous believe then so be it, what do you care.
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Don't take anything that Shamgar writes seriously, Boliviano. I'd be angry with him if I did, but I recognize that he has serious psychological problems.
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i don't think it's so wrong to say"marry ur own people"...of course u can't force it,because democracy comes first,but u can prssure and if the love is strong enough,it will pass that rule. and christians can also say it......actually we have droozim(not jewish) in israel,nice people but when it comes to marriages,it's a law for them to marry only within them selves.a girl was murdered because she dated a moslem...of course the police went in and arrested people.......but i don't think it's wrong to say that sentence and again if the love is strong enoough,it will pass that rule,stupid or not stupid.
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What wrong with not marrying outside the race or ethinicity. Many parents strongly object a person dating outside the race, that includes whites, blacks and latinos. If it is against their religous believe then so be it, what do you care.
hahahahahaha like I said "be a white man" and say "It is against your religious beliefs to interracially marry". . . you will be called a "racist". . .Whites are "evil" don't you know. . . saying you don't believe in interracial marriage is "evil". . . in fact Ihave been regulary called a "racist" since I don't belive in interracial marriage. . . .when you tell the other person to tell the jews/antichrists the same thing . . they all of a sudden shut up. . . .go figure. . ..the jews do no wrong. . . .
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