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Old 12-25-2005, 08:10 AM
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Beware of Jews Spewing the Holocaust to deflect any and all criticism against jews or israel. . .it is nothing but a scam. . . . .

It was not Israel's alleged weakness and isolation, not the fear of a “second Holocaust,” but rather its proven strength and strategic alliance with the United States that led Jewish elites to gear up the Holocaust industry after June 1967. However unwittingly, Novick provides the best evidence to support that conclusion. To prove that power considerations, not the Nazi Final Solution, determined American policy toward Israel, he writes: “It was when the Holocaust was freshest in the mind of the American leaders – the first twenty-five years after the end of the war – that the United States was the least supportive of Israel. . . . It was not when Israel was perceived as weak and vulnerable, but after it demonstrated its strength, in the Six Day War, that American aid to Israel changed from a trickle to a flood.” (emphasis in original). (47) That argument applies with equal to American Jewish elites.

Norman G. Finkelstein, “The Holocaust Industry”. (London: 2000), Page 31-32.
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Why pick on Jews? I am half Dutch, c. 40% English, c. 6% Welsh and c. 3% Irish. Tell me what's wrong with one or more of those groups. I honestly don't mind.
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Indeed the secular success story of American Jewry validated a core – perhaps the sole – tenet of their newly acquired identity as Jews. Who could any longer dispute that Jews were a “chosen” people? In A Certain People: American Jews and Their Lives Today, Charles Silberman – himself a born-again Jew – typically gushes: “Jews would have been less than human had they eschewed any notion of superiority altogether,” and “it is extraordinarily difficult for American Jews to expunge the sense of superiority altogether, however much they may try to suppress it.” What an American Jewish child inherits, according to novelist Philip Roth, is “no body of law, no body of learning and no language, and finally, no Lord . . . but a kind of psychology: and the psychology can be translated in three words: 'Jews are better.' (49)

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What about my ethnicity, Shamgar? Isn't there something wrong with it?
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“By conferring total blamelessness on Jews, the Holocaust dogma immunizes Israel and American Jewry from legitimate censure.”

Norman G. Finkelstein, “The Holocaust Industry”. (London: 2000), Page 52.
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Seriously, aren't you getting tired of picking on Jews? Don't you have something against my heritage?
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“Uniqueness of Jewish suffering/uniqueness of the Jews, ever guilty Gentile/ever-innocent Jews, unconditional support of Israel/unconditional defense of Jewish interests: Elie Wiesel is The Holocaust.”

Norman G. Finkelstein, “The Holocaust Industry”. (London: 2000), Page 54-55.
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i'm confused as to what your point is shamgar.

Yes, there have been a number of jews who have used the holocaust to their advantage. The same has been done by blacks in america, blacks in south africa, indigenous/native people in africa, latin america and australia, chinese prostitutes of WWII, and minority muslim groups.

But, there has been tons of anti-semitism in america for two centuries; it still exists.

Are you aware that that jews have higher IQs than any other ehtnic group, a quarter of american nobel prizes, and huge numbers of mathematics, computer science, chess, and literary awards. Did it ever occur to you that being a minority and much hated people, it has driven the jews to work hard. Which is why they are so prevalent in fields of science, literature, law, politics, medicine, banking, and business.
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Seriously, Shamgar, all that Jews want is to be tolerated in a world dominated by Christians and Muslims. There are over 2 billion Christians in the world and over 1.2 billion Muslims. There are only about 14.5 million followers of Judaism. Jews have been horribly persecuted throughout history, first by Gentile empires in Biblical Times, then by the Ancient Romans (Hadrian murdered 500,000 Jews in one of many massacres), by so-called Christians who encouraged centuries of pogroms against them and expelled them from many nations and most recently by Nazis and neo-Nazis, who use pseudo-scientific racist "justification" for their deeds. Even today, the average American Jew is more likely to be the victim of a hate crime than the average African American. For millennia countless people across the world have mistreated Jews simply to vent their frustrations. That is why the sort of thing that you are writing opens wounds, Shamgar. You can write anything you want about me. Call me a serpent preacher or a wolf in sheep's clothing. I don't mind that. What bothers me is that you have no comprehension of how horrible the Holocaust and countless other anti-Semitic atrocities have been, and your words are hurtful to those who do, especially those of Jewish descent. Honestly, if you're mad at the world, please find someone else to vent your aggressions on.
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Are you aware that that jews have higher IQs than any other ehtnic group, a quarter of american nobel prizes, and huge numbers of mathematics, computer science, chess, and literary awards. Did it ever occur to you that being a minority and much hated people, it has driven the jews to work hard. Which is why they are so prevalent in fields of science, literature, law, politics, medicine, banking, and business.
And it is on record that the jews have a higher rate of mental illness and degeneracy. . . .

"When Freud returned to Vienna and began teaching in the Medical Faculty, he found that the idea that Jews were predisposed to specific forms of mental illness was commonplace. The standard handbooks of the time repeated this view in various contexts, including those that associated the hidden taint of the Jew's potential mental illness with the visible signs of degeneracy." Sander L. Gilman. “Freud, Race and Gender” (Princeton:1993). Page 94-95.

. . .and it is matter of historical record that they have been kicked out of different countries 34 times. . . . and it is never their fault in all those times. . .go figure. . . . and like everywhere they squeeze and squeeze their host nation dry. . . .unless or until the host gets tired of the squeeze. . .

First they came for the communists, and I did not speak out--
because I was not a communist; (Communism Promoted by Jew Lenin )
Then they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out--
because I was not a socialist; (Socialism Orginated by Jew Marx)
Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out--
because I was not a trade unionist; (Jewish Trade Unionist)
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out--
because I was not a Jew; (Anti-Christs)
Then they came for me--
and there was no one left to speak out for me.

-Pastor Martin Niemöller, 1945


The challenge today is to restore the Nazi Holocaust as a rational subject of inquiry. Only then can we really learn from it. The abnormality of the Nazi holocaust springs not from the event itself but from the exploitive industry that has sprung up around it. The Holocaust industry has always been bankrupt. What remains is to openly declare it so. The time is long past to put it out of business.

Norman G. Finkelstein, “The Holocaust Industry”. (London: 2000), Page 150.

and who is in charge of the EXPLOITIVE holocaust industry. . .no surprise. . .jews. . .
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