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Old 01-06-2006, 11:37 AM
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[See proof positive the nobnbeliever can't undestand Christ's reasoning for calling some jews the sons of the devil.. . . .thanks for helping me prove my point. . .again. . .

1 Cor 2: 14 But the natural man does not receive the things of the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him; neither can he know them , because they are spiritually discerned.
Show me in Scriptures where Christ says Jews are the sons of the devil. He didn't say that, did he? You're the only person I've ever heard say that.
You aren't claiming to be the second coming, are you?
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i think the poster just want another head-head battle that will last for at least 5 pages,between me and force of the truth,and shamgar.
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Nowhere did Jesus say or imply that Jews were in any way inferior to Gentiles. In fact, that verse from the Book of Galatians proves that race is ultimately meaningless. We are, as the Bible states, all one in Jesus Christ.
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But by Shamgar's "logic", things must be explicitly mentioned in Scriptures to be true. Even if it were implied that Jews were inferior, that would not be enough. It would have to say that Christ specifically said that the Jews were sons of the devil. Since I know that's not in there, I can only infer that Shamgar is referring to a "Christ" not in the bible. And he's the only one I know of to use those words.
If Sham is Christ, I think I'm volunteering for Lucifer's army.
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I think he gets his ideas from that anti-Semitic website I mentioned in another thread.
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]Show me in Scriptures where Christ says Jews are the sons of the devil. He didn't say that, did he? You're the only person I've ever heard say that.
You aren't claiming to be the second coming, are you?
hahahahaha oh cretin i thought you knew "everything" . . .and I have posted it numerous times. . . but then again it proves you don't understand what is posted. . .

John 8: 38 I speak what I have seen with My Father, and you, then, do what you have seen with your father. 39 They answered and said to Him, Abraham is our father. Jesus answered them, If you were Abraham's children, you would do the works of Abraham. 40 But now you seek to kill Me, a man who has told you the truth which I have heard beside God; this Abraham did not do. 41 You do the deeds of your father. Then they said to Him, We are not born of fornication; we have one father, even God. 42 Jesus said to them, If God were your father, you would love Me, for I went forth and came from God; for I did not come of Myself, but He sent Me. 43 Why do you not know My speech? Because you cannot hear My word. 44 You are of the Devil as father, and the lusts of your father you will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and did not abide in the truth because there is no truth in him. When he speaks a lie, he speaks of his own, for he is a liar and the father of it. 45 And because I tell you the truth, you do not believe Me.
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Nowhere did Jesus say or imply that Jews were in any way inferior to Gentiles. In fact, that verse from the Book of Galatians proves that race is ultimately meaningless. We are, as the Bible states, all one in Jesus Christ.
Is that what it says in your "cliff's Notes of the Bible"? That the sons of the devil are not inferior?
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(*)(*)(*)(*)...I've been wrong for such a long time. How could I have been such a fool. I always thought Jesus' message was one of love and understanding. Here it turns out I must have been reading the bible all wrong - since his message turns out to really be all about hating on jews.
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(*)(*)(*)(*)...I've been wrong for such a long time. How could I have been such a fool. I always thought Jesus' message was one of love and understanding. Here it turns out I must have been reading the bible all wrong - since his message turns out to really be all about hating on jews.
Yup there are many fools and few wise. . . .go figure. . .

. . .in fact the fools (thanks for the confession) actually believe that the agnositc jews, atheist jews, orthodox jews, and observant jews are entering the kingdom of heaven even though the deny Jesus is the son of God. . . cretins. . .

Luke 13: 23 And one said to Him, Lord, are the ones being saved few? And He said to them, 24 Strive to enter in at the narrow gate. For I say to you, many will seek to enter in and shall not be able. 25 And once the Master of the house has risen up and has shut the door, and you begin to stand outside and to knock at the door, saying, Lord, Lord, open to us, and He shall answer and say to you, I do not know you; from where are you; 26 then you shall begin to say, We ate and drank in Your presence, and You have taught in our streets. 27 But He shall say, I tell you, I do not know you; from where you are. Depart from Me, all workers of unrighteousness! 28 There will be weeping and gnashing of teeth when you will see Abraham and Isaac and Jacob, and all the prophets, in the kingdom of God, and yourselves being thrust out. 29 And they will come from the east and the west, and from the north and the south, and will recline in the kingdom of God. 30 And behold, there are last ones which will be first, and there are first ones which will be last.
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how do you know that Jesus was the son of G-d? I'm hindu, so I have always been under the impression that Vishnu, and Brahma, never had children.
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