There are not too many U.S. Presidents that you could argue as good, aside from FDR and TR, how many good Presidents has the U.S. produced? Let's just face facts people, in the United States, most Presidents that are elected by the country are ones born into wealth and that have an I.Q. of at least 110 ( usually ). The United States is just one of those countries where the leaders are born, not made.

Give a thought

And can you cite evidence proving all US presidents (apparently with the exceptions of TR and FDR) to be failures?

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Theodore Lamar Heiks
BA, History/Political Science, Western State College of Colorado, 1984
MBA, Entrepreneurship/Marketing, City University of Seattle, 1993

Maybe you could show us a presidential IQ chart.

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Theodore Lamar Heiks
BA, History/Political Science, Western State College of Colorado, 1984
MBA, Entrepreneurship/Marketing, City University of Seattle, 1993

Perhaps your standards are unreasonably high.

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Failures at what?

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"Man lives in the sunlit world of that which he believes to be reality. But unseen by most is an underworld, a place that is just as real... but not as brightly lit... A DARK SIDE!"
-opening from Tales From the Darkside

let's see, Washington, Adams, Jefferson, Madison, Monroe, Jackson, Polk, Lincoln, McKinley, Taft, Wilson, Truman, Eisenwhower, Kennedy, Reagan, Bush, Clinton.....

How does one have nothing but failures at president while building the richest, most powerful country in the history of the planet?

Maybe Frederick the Great was on to something when he said, "If I wished to punish a province, I would have it governed by philosophers."

Maybe Lenin's problem was that he was too smart to run a country.

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Man up.

So far you've named 17 of the 42 men who have been president of the US. What's your point?

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Theodore Lamar Heiks
BA, History/Political Science, Western State College of Colorado, 1984
MBA, Entrepreneurship/Marketing, City University of Seattle, 1993

Reagan added on to foreign debt, so did Bush Senior, Carter worsened Muslim relations with the States, and the list goes on.

1. You still need to put up that presidential IQ chart.
2. Define failure in a quantifiable and statistically measurable form and show how each of the presidents (other than the Roosevelts) qualifies (and show why the Roosevelts weren't failures).
3. Quantitatively define wealth and show how each of the presidents meets this definition ... and was born to it.

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Theodore Lamar Heiks
BA, History/Political Science, Western State College of Colorado, 1984
MBA, Entrepreneurship/Marketing, City University of Seattle, 1993