Oh you mean like Martin Luther?

Therefore, dear Christian, be advised and do not doubt that next to the devil, you have no more bitter, venomous, and vehement foe than a real Jew who earnestly seeks to be a Jew.

Luther's Works: The Christian In Society IV. Vol 47. American Edition. Edited by Franklin Sherman. (Philadelphia: 1981) ISBN: 0-8006-0347-8.

ON THE JEWS AND THEIR LIES by Martin Luther, in this year 1543 Translated by Martin H. Bertram

. . . . I guess you had better come up with a better fairy tale. . .the facts of history crushed that one. . .

i think rocky was referring to a time much earlier than martin luther, back in the extremely early days of the church when it was still considered a sect of judaism.

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When then the real morons would be the two of you since judaism was never part of Christianity. . . again history crushes the fairytale. . .


The Pharisees

“The spread of a modified Pharisaism to the ends of the earth has fortunately not prevented the endurance throughout the centuries of the unchanged faith, in Rabbinic Judaism, Pharisaism became Talmudism, Talmudism became Medieval Rabbinism, and Medieval Rabbinism became Modern Rabbinism. But throughout these changes of name, inevitable adaption of custom, and adjustments of Law, the spirit of the ancient Pharisee survives unaltered. When the Jew reads his prayers, he is reciting formulae prepared by pre-Maccabean scholars; when he dons the cloak prescribed for the Day of of Atonement and Passover Eve, he is wearing the festival garment of ancient Jerusalem; when he studies the Talmud, he is actually repeating the arguments used in Palestine academies.”

The Pharisees: The Sociological Background of Their Faith by Louis Finkelstein. Provost and Solomon Schechter Professor of Theology at the Jewish Theological Seminary of America. Volume #1. Philadelphia, The Jewish Publication Society of America, 1938. Pages xx-xxi.

Conversely, the follower of the prophet gave way to the Hasid, and the latter was succeeded by the Pharisee. When Pharisaism became practically synonymous with Judaism, the divisive forces made themselves felt within it, and there arose the two factions of Shammaites and Hillelites to struggle for the control of the party.

The Pharisees: The Sociological Background of Their Faith by Louis Finkelstein. Provost and Solomon Schechter Professor of Theology at the Jewish Theological Seminary of America. Volume #1. Philadelphia, The Jewish Publication Society of America, 1938. Page 3.

And yet the essential unity of the Pharisaic interpretation of the Law has been preserved. Bitter controversies have arisen between different communities, and also between individuals, with regard to the correct interpretation of the Law. But rabbinic Judaism, the first born child of Pharisaism, remains a unit until this day.

The Pharisees: The Sociological Background of Their Faith by Louis Finkelstein. Provost and Solomon Schechter Professor of Theology at the Jewish Theological Seminary of America. Volume #2. Philadelphia, The Jewish Publication Society of America, 1938. Page 622.

The original followers of Christ still considered themselves Jewish and continued to observe Jewish law.

The original followers of Jesus still considered themselves Jews and only accepted Jewish converts until Paul finally convinced them to accept everybody, regardless of faith. Only then did Christianity begin to break away from Judaism as it attracted more and more converts who didn't observe Jewish law. Face it Sham, your beloved Christian religion orginated as a Jewish sect. Whether is was condemned by the Pharisees is irrelevent as the Pope, at one time or another, condemned virtually all Christian sects not associated with Catholicism, yet they are all still considered Christian.

BTW, I am curious. What sect of Christianity are you a member of?

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Shamgar, I'm still waiting for you to give me one name of a living Jew who is responsible for the murder of Jesus Christ. You seem to have such a strong belief that the zionists are responsible for the crucifixion, I would have thought you could list a few names. What are you waiting for?

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Oh so they still continued to sacrifice animals? . . .and circumcision? You are a moron. . .

Col 2: 9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily. 10 And ye are complete in him, which is the head of all principality and power: 11 In whom also ye are circumcised with the circumcision made without hands, in putting off the body of the sins of the flesh by the circumcision of Christ: 12 Buried with him in baptism, wherein also ye are risen with him through the faith of the operation of God, who hath raised him from the dead.

The Bible was written by ordinary men, you cant trust it. They wrote it 300 yrs after Jesus "died on the cross" and they voted what to put in and what to keep out. If any book should be trusted, trust the Qur'an.

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hey young communist league. . .communism is a product of athiest jews.. .

the crusades shouldn't be an honorable point in christianity's history....getting "knights" and others,to "fight for christianity" and by that: murdering jews in jewish community all over europe,and killing jews and moslems in the holy land.

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And beyond that, they even killed Christians that didn't agree with their version of Christianity. At least we know the Crusaders didn't discriminate.

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