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Old 02-03-2006, 08:58 AM
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[huh, that doesn't make any (*)(*)(*)(*) sense man, i haven't seen the agruement used against the Jews since Hitler was in power
I doubt it would it makes sense since it would take knowledge of the Scriptures and a functioning brain so many drones are unable to comprehend the simple facts. . .

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Boliviano, I know Shamgar from another site. Don't expect him to make any sense.
Sounds like sour grapes from the literalist cult. . .
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i will now translate every post that shamgar has ever written on this forum for everyone who has trouble making sense of it all. okay, here goes:

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i will now translate every post that shamgar has ever written on this forum for everyone who has trouble making sense of it all. okay, here goes:
See I told you your little tears would cause a short in your keyboard. . .that must expalin all this garbage you "translated" .. . hahahahahaaa
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The Bible was written by ordinary men, you cant trust it. They wrote it 300 yrs after Jesus "died on the cross" and they voted what to put in and what to keep out. If any book should be trusted, trust the Qur'an.
Okay let's take your argument and apply it to you.

The Qur'an was written by an ordinary man too. What makes it any better than the bible?
Wrong, the Qur'an is God's message that He sent down to the Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him). It was God's final rvelation after the Torah and the Evangel.
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So, I agree with the basic philosophy of it and in a truly socialist nation there has to be freedom of religion. Besides, if you look at Islam & communism youll see their extremely simular economically, internationally, and civily.
No you don't since your argument is not to believe documents written by ordinary men. . .communism was written by ordinary atheist jews/men so it cannot be trusted. . get a life. . .
No, what I'm saying is that you cant accept something as being holy if it was compiled through democratic vote. Communism was written after years of economic and scientific study in which the writter lived in the conditions he described instead of writing from observation.
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[Communism was written after years of economic and scientific study in which the writter lived in the conditions he described instead of writing from observation.
. .. by atheist jews. . .which of course makes it the fruit of an evil tree. . .
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Although they were a miserable failure in terms of their planned goals, the Crusades were one of the most important European wars. Before the Crusades, Europe was a desolate place stricken with immense poverty and internal warfare. Feudal lords engaged in skirmishes against each other over petty differences that usually resulted in nothing more than the destruction of much needed farmland and the deaths of much needed laborers. The church tried various methods to curb this violence (the most amusing being what was called "God's Truce," in which it tried to restrict fighting to only certain days of the week), but it was ultimately unsuccessful. The Crusades, however, were able to redirect this violence towards a common enemy. Therefore, feudal warfare in Europe vastly diminished.

Islamic culture had always been more advanced than European, philosophically, intelectually, and technologically. The Crusades helped introduced this advanced culture to Europe, causing an explosion in intellectual and philosophical thought as well as technological developments. As Europeans slowly gained more wealth due to better agricultural conditions and less internal struggles, Europeans began to crave Islamic commodities, such as spice and silk, jump-starting the commercial revolution that hit Europe during the Middle Ages.

Before the Crusades, Europe was considered a wasteland by virtually the entire world. The Muslims considered Europeans to be barbarians, and both they and the Vikings used them simply as a source of slaves and supplies which they took by force. Europe changed dramatically and quickly after the Crusades, and without them, it is quite possible that the Renaissance may never have occurred or occurred much later than it did.
Without saying that this is totally correct or in agreement with my perception it is still the least biased, bigoted or downright loony historical observation that I`ve yet seen on this site.

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i will now translate every post that shamgar has ever written on this forum for everyone who has trouble making sense of it all. okay, here goes:

blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah. yada yada yada yada yada yada yada yada yada yada yada yada yada yada yada yada yada yada yada yada yada yada yada yada yada yada yada yada yada yada.

now there should be no more confusion.
And that was the most insightful, astute and perceptive observation in this thread.

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The Bible was written by ordinary men, you cant trust it. They wrote it 300 yrs after Jesus "died on the cross"
No. The texts that made the cut into the "New Testament" were late first century through mid-second century writings.
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and they voted what to put in and what to keep out.
Yup. Revelations almost didn't make it in. It's too bad that all that paranoid nonsense slid by.
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If any book should be trusted, trust the Qur'an
The Qur'an has no more factual weight than the Judeo-Christian mythologizing. Trust them only to reflect their primitive times.
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