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Old 02-02-2006, 03:16 PM
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Communism is a lie. It is sugarcoated totalitarianism. Communists do not really want the masses to have the power. They just want their own brand of aristocracy.
That explains why Marx, Lenin, Mao, Tito, and Che all spent their lives in poverty studying and improving the socialist idea; surely the hope that communism could improve life never had anything to do with it.[/quote]
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Anarcho-communism would work in a perfect world, since in a perfect world no government would be necessary and all goods and services would be distributed according to need. That is not how the world works, however. Schwarzwald, S-S is a former Communist, so he knows the ideology very well.
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Schwarz: I agree with you on most things you've said but why do we need to go socialist before communist? Why not instead of a brief period under a socialist oligarchy we just organize into communes and/or local soviets straight away?
Good question comrade, allow me to explain. Socialism is the second stage needed before communism can be established; to get to the final stage (communism) is a process in which we gradually empower the workers and prepare them for whats to come instead of just giving them everything unprepared. Lenin made the mistake of having the revolution while everyone was unprepared and he had no true economic plan once the revolution was over. In order to succeed we must look at the American economic situation instead of copying other nations, prepare workers while empowering them which means educating them, and we must have clear visions & goals of what we intend to do and how to do it when the time comes. After the workers have enough power, education, and understanding to take the political & economical stage then capitalism will be slowly/cautiously pushed out and the communist stage will begin.
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Every single time a communist regime has taken over, they have either committed gross human rights violations, or have created corrupt bureaucracies that benefit few while leaving millions with very little. Or both. Communism doesn't work, and anyone who believes is does is a poor student in history.
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Why would the wealthy consent to be part of anarchist communes? If they wouldn't and a socialist transition phase would be necessary, what reason do we have to believe that the socialist government would give up its power to the communes? Finally, even if such a society were possible, what would prevent its corruption and the formation of a government (probably worse than the original) by the more crafty and capable members of the communes?
Keep the people educated not only in school but in the workplace and at home. Find ways to keep them interested in politics, economics, philosophy, military. With everyone educated this way the people would be able to see if they were being exploited or not and they could put the corrupt leaders out and replace them through election. The government depending on the state and vise versa.
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Every single time a communist regime has taken over, they have either committed gross human rights violations, or have created corrupt bureaucracies that benefit few while leaving millions with very little. Or both. Communism doesn't work, and anyone who believes is does is a poor student in history.
You could say the same for America.
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Every single time a communist regime has taken over, they have either committed gross human rights violations, or have created corrupt bureaucracies that benefit few while leaving millions with very little. Or both. Communism doesn't work, and anyone who believes is does is a poor student in history.
You could say the same for America.
you can't. The American government has never mass murdered it's people.
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Every single time a communist regime has taken over, they have either committed gross human rights violations, or have created corrupt bureaucracies that benefit few while leaving millions with very little. Or both. Communism doesn't work, and anyone who believes is does is a poor student in history.
You could say the same for America.
you can't. The American government has never mass murdered it's people.
World War I, Vietnam, Korea, Iraq.
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That makes no sense. Please explain.
He is a young Communist don't expect it to make sense. He is stuck in his own self made metaphysical abstraction box. I find it hard to believe that people still believe in the idiocy of Karl Marx after all these years.
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