[quote="DBG";p="26050"][color=indigo]........is partly caused by ignorance of this scale being allowed to not only live but breed.



I won't stoop to your level Therese, because you are SO LOW and wriggling so fast to try and defend your MISTAKEN idea of the war in Iraq that my head would implode if I emptied it out to the extent necessary to cater to your ignorance.

So tell me......honestly....what IS it about you neo-ccons that you just can.not.stand. to admit you're wrongwrongwrong, causing you go through these pitiable contortions, i.e. changing subject, invalid comparisons, word parsing (what it "torture"?)and of course, the neo-con eejit fall-back favorite - BLAME CLINTON?


Clinton is nothing more than a playboy who somehow got elected to the presidency and while he was mediocre at best, he could have been so much more if he had just concentrated on the job instead of the blow job.
Second, why can't you answer the question put to you.
If my friend didn't die for his country because Iraq didn't attack us, then the soldiers who fought in WWII that died in Germany and France didn't die for their country because Germany didn't attack us? Isn't that right? That's what your whole dispute was about.
What's the matter you pathetic, lame liberal? Why can't you answer the question?

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Apart from the fact that Germany was allied with Japan who DID attack the US your analogy doesn't work...9/11 was planned by and carried out be Saudi Arabians....so the US attacks Iraq....who had NO CONNECTION TO THE EVENT....

This is obvisously a touchy topic for you, but please try and lay off the name-calling...you are smarter than that...

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The last time this country mixed politics with religion, people got burned at the stake.

I guess all teh D day soldiers didnt die defending our freedom. Germany never attacked us. and THAT was the point you make over and over.. NOT the POTENTIAL of the enemy. the Fact of teh enemy.
So i guess you all feel the brave soldiers who died fighting the nazis did so NOT for our freedom.
SAD SAD LIBERALS

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Sad Child, you once again haven't a clue of what the military of this country does. It fights for all our freedoms. It fights foes foreign or domestic and because of them you are both free. Quibble all you want but that is the truth.

Oh and forgive me Truebrit but you are incorrect there is no "credible" link between Japan and Germany. Stop making things up, you are better than that.

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That is a bit simplistic. A country does not need to have the eminent threat of full invasion to be threaned enough to defend itself.

But, I'll concede that this war with Iraq has less to do with defending itself than with seizing an opportunity to kill two birds with one stone.

Having said that, I don't mourn the loss of Saddam. It may not seem this way now, but the Iraqi citizens are better off without him. Remember how happy they were when we entered. We all saw that.

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You guys we need to distinguish something here. On one hand you have the troops, who are braver than we can imagine in the face of defeat see Black Hawk Down. These guys and gals would fight to the death for our freedom, and that is really why the American military was created, do protect and defend us.

On the other hand, you have the U.S government, who knows the power they have at their fingertips. The government, while not always deceptive about every little thing as most people seem to think on these forums, has been known to use this great noble force for their own ends. Sometimes they grossly misuse it.

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It all happened as you say. And then there was Vietnam...

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Our troops weren't fighting for our freedom in Viet Nam either.



Therese - - maybe if you weren't taking these corrections so personally you could see that there isn't any denigration of our troops or their work inherent in the corrections to your posts.

It's a simple-minded neo-con tactic to ASSume if a person is anti-bush-war-mongering that person doesn't support our troops (or my fav - is a Saddam-lover) and doesn't grieve with every death and injury - even the ones the 'w' regime are hiding from the public.
That's right Therese - - your beloved 'w' regime is hiding the number of injured troops from you. They say about 5700 injuries when there are actually almost 20,000.

Is that respect, in your book?

In short, what I'm asking is if you can put your emotions in perspective and think rationally about this war.


http://www.wsws.org/articles/2004/fe...woun-f04.shtml
http://www.worldmessenger.20m.com/uscasualties5.html

However, in the opinion of the military and most of thinking America, the troops are there to keep America free and when they are killed in action it is for their country and their fellow citizens. So you can debate this all day but fallen soldiers no matter whether you think it was a legitimate action or not have fallen for this country.

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