I assumed that everyone felt the way I do on this issue, but in a recent thread on Nazi Germany, Printer2 disagreed:

What do you think? Please feel free to elaborate.

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Yeah I don't support the racist dictator called Bush. . .and of course supporting Israel you are supporting a racist regime also. . .

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Then why didnt you vote #1?

Maybe. That has nothing to do with the poll question though.

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I just voted for 8, but immediately realized tat it depends in which time period it happens. In 2006, wars of conquest are evil, in 1500, its not evil. In 1939, i feel that its kinda in the middle of morality.

But, I dont see anything immoral about supporting a racist dictator. I think its imorall to support a racist who does racist policies. But, it also has to be put in persective. I've always felt that the Germans of the 30s can be partially excused do to the circumstantial events of the day.

Shamgar,you never lived here,so you don't know how racist we are so please don't speak of which you don't know. BTW I won't advise you to come here,since people here are jewish,you can find yourself in a grave,unfortunate as that can be. Your the last person on earth that can talk about racism.

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For one thing "racism" is a tool of the antichrists. . . . as "racism" has only been "evil" for the last 50-60 years. . . but was clearly acceptable for thousands of years prior. . . . so your whole poll is flawed. . . .

It has everything to do with the question since their leaders in Israel are racist dictators. . . .but want everyone else to treat them "equally" . . actually better then everyone else. . .hence they are dictators by nature. . .

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Um...how is the poll flawed? You have the option of saying racism is or is not evil. If you dont think it is evil, why not just vote for the selection that says racism isnt evil?

Not that I really care if you vote. But you cant whine about the bias of the poll, because all the options are there. The poll is not "flawed".

If the nation is democratic, they are not dictators by definition.

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Racist dictators and wars of conquest are evil. That goes without saying.

You would think so. Printer2 seems to disagree.

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According to my morality, a person being a bigot/racist is not evil in itself. I don't judge people as evil according to their beliefs, only according to their actions. Plus, even if I did apply morality to one's beliefs I wouldnt consider being a bigot evil. I would consider it morally wrong and reprehensible, but evil would be on a level beyond the reach of mere bigots.

Concerning wars of conquest, it has to be taken into historical perspective. Concerning wars of conquest up to the year 1800, they are not morally wrong or evil, period. After 1800 the issue becomes fuzzy and very dependant on the situation.

To me, Napoleon is not evil. I don't believe that he perpetraited evil in his campaigns, as he lived in an era where wars of conquest were still morally allowed.

Imperialistic campaigns of conquest, though having many elements of evil, perhaps, are not evil on the whole. Though, truth be told, I find it very difficult to argue against them really being evil. So, they probably were.

WWII, the declarartion of war against Poland can be considered wrong, but not evil. Evil was enslaving the people. The war of conquest against Russia was not evil, as it was a pre-emtpive assault on an enemy. Thus permissable. France and England are difficult, as they declared war on Germany - thus I would need some more input from you guys concerning their situation.

Concerning the people of Germany of the 30s, I find some fault of them, but can forgive them on the whole. They did support a man who preached evil, but most of the true evil was hidden from what he told them. Furthermore, I forgive them because the dire straits and their hardships forced them to settle for a man who preached evil but to them at least made their country strong and welathy. I cannot blame them; they were brainwashed. Nor did most of the populace or army know of what true evils Hitler was commiting.