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Old 03-01-2006, 02:06 PM
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While I am 100% pro-life, I oppose prosecuting women for abortion, and furthermore, I recognize that punishing abortion doctors would not solve the basic problem of women having no options. Therefore, to put it simply, I think that if a woman chooses abortion, the man who made her pregnant should be convicted of first-degree murder.
Every other post you try to claim you are centrist, and then you post nutty authoritarian crap like this.

You want to convict the man for a choice the woman made. Yeah, that makes a lot of sense. Oh, I forgot. He's a man. That makes him guilty by default.

Why not just cut out the middle man and say that all men should be executed for being men? That would solve most of your problems, and make you look less like a hypocrite. At least Shamgar is honest about being an extremist.

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I have not seen a single case of abortion in which the father wasn't ultimately to blame
1) An abortion cant happen without the woman's consent. Period.

2) Unless the woman was raped, sex is consentual. Therefore, she shares responsibility for any pregnancy.

You have gone off the deep end on yet another thread.

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I'm ready to be called "crazy" and "authoritarian" for this idea.
We'll see. I am expecting another apologist "I-am-really-a-centrist" thread in the next few days. Lets see if you grow some balls. I am not holding my breath.

And yes, this idea is both crazy and authoritarian.

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I don't care, since it is the only humane solution.
Yeah, because it is always humane to kill men. Right?
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Look, stekim: Cut out playing these games. Not once in my life has it ever occured to me that men are smarter than women and I long ago abandoned the societal stereotype that women are more sensitive than men.
Maybe someday you'll shed your remaining stereotypes as well.
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I suppose chopping off their penises would do.
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I'm tired of this. I pray for God's mercy every time I think something that doesn't conform to feminism- the only exception being abortion. I've hated myself more and more for being pro-life, since I can't stand the thought of forcing a woman to go through what my mother went through. I can't be pro-choice because I can't support killing. My idea, insane or not, was the best I could come up with to resolve the conflict in my own mind. I hate myself for being male. Every time I look in the mirror I see the product of my mother's suffering. If I could remove whatever part of my mind gives me a sexuality, I would. I've come to see nothing as more evil than male heterosexuality, and on an emotional level I would be pro-choice if I didn't associate abortion with womanizing. I hate myself enough already. Stop trying to hurt me further. I would rather be called anything than be called a sexist, because deep down I feel that maleness itself is sexist. I don't hold anti-woman views of any kind, so just stop it.
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Old 03-01-2006, 02:26 PM
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It matters not which sex it is. If you don't think your posts are paternalistic and reek of how inferior women are in your eyes (hence they are in need of numerous special protections) then I suggest you re-read your posts. Better yet, do a poll. I am sure you will find nearly everyone reads the same things into your posts I do.
You state this because of your own misogyny. I don't think of women as being inferior in any way. I beg your pardon for offending your all-important machismo with my posts. Now you have to lie to prove your "toughness" while at the same time accusing me of holding sexist views, since you hold them yourself. You think of women as objects and hence you don't merely think of women as inferior, you don't regard them as human beings at all. If there is a God, stekim, you and S-S will see no mercy... ever.
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I'm tired of this. I pray for God's mercy every time I think something that doesn't conform to feminism- the only exception being abortion. I've hated myself more and more for being pro-life, since I can't stand the thought of forcing a woman to go through what my mother went through. I can't be pro-choice because I can't support killing.
Then I guess you need to make a choice; do you support women's rights or do you support killing children?

But that wont solve the real problem: Your complete lack of a moral backbone. Basically, you let feminists define all your positions for you. I have trouble finding any sympathy for you...you bring all this crap on yourself.

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My idea, insane or not, was the best I could come up with to resolve the conflict in my own mind.
Your solution to every problem seem to involve killing or mutilating men in some way.

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I hate myself for being male.
Then quit whining and get a sex change or hire a better psychologist.

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If I could remove whatever part of my mind gives me a sexuality, I would.
You can. Get a sex change. Lots of people have done it before. Once your penis is gone and you have a nice rack you'll feel better. Probably.

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Stop trying to hurt me further.
If you dont want the criticism why are you posting your nutty thoughts on a public anonymous political forum??

Jesus Christ, that is just common sense! If you dont want to hear opinions...DONT ASK FOR THEM. By posting in a forum like this, you are inviting opinions. With every post.

If you dont want to be hurt...STOP POSTING.

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Hey Victim!
Should I black your eyes again?
Hey Victim!
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I don't hold anti-woman views of any kind, so just stop it.
Most feminists will tell you that opposing pro-choice = being anti-woman.
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If there is a God, stekim, you and S-S will see no mercy... ever.
I just asked God to confirm that, and he says that I shouldnt listen to you.

I'm sorry. But he IS God after all...
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Any statement that I hold any anti-woman sexist attitude or idea is a complete lie. That is what I'm tired of; I am sick of being lied about.
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Look, this is the only idea I can stand. This is the only way of ending abortion without punishing women for an evil caused by males.
Pregnancy is an evil?
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Pregnancy is an evil?
I apologize for my outbursts, Doctiloquus. I was upset by something in another thread about abortion. It made me feel terrible for being pro-life. Then stekim started calling me a sexist again, which he knows is a lie, and I exploded.
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