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While I am 100% pro-life, I oppose prosecuting women for abortion, and furthermore, I recognize that punishing abortion doctors would not solve the basic problem of women having no options. Therefore, to put it simply, I think that if a woman chooses abortion, the man who made her pregnant should be convicted of first-degree murder. I have not seen a single case of abortion in which the father wasn't ultimately to blame, so this would end abortion (and essentially end the horror of womanizing as well) while holding the right people to blame. I'm ready to be called "crazy" and "authoritarian" for this idea. I don't care, since it is the only humane solution. Of course, I know that it will never be put into law, but I want to state my support for it anyway.
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...if a woman chooses abortion, the man who made her pregnant should be convicted of first-degree murder.
The man cannot be held accountable for the woman's decision under any circumstances. Thats just not reasonable.

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I have not seen a single case of abortion in which the father wasn't ultimately to blame
And when the woman lies about birth control, or there is a failure in the operation of the birth control?
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That makes no sense on multiple levels.

First, the man is no less responsible than the woman. Its takes two to tangle. her egg is just as important as his sperm.

Second, the woman also made the choice to have sex.

Third, the woman makes the decision to have an abortion, not the man. So it makes no sense to convict the man.

Fourth, you'd have to prove that a fetus is a human being. I, for one, do not believe that a fetus, at least in the early stages, is a human being.
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I already know that this will never be put into law. I wanted to state my idea and make some people think about the issue on a deeper level.
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While I am 100% pro-life, I oppose prosecuting women for abortion, and furthermore, I recognize that punishing abortion doctors would not solve the basic problem of women having no options. Therefore, to put it simply, I think that if a woman chooses abortion, the man who made her pregnant should be convicted of first-degree murder.
Interesting arrangement. A woman’s choice if she chooses to make it and the man will be punished. Aren’t those called scapegoats.
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I have not seen a single case of abortion in which the father wasn't ultimately to blame, so this would end abortion (and essentially end the horror of womanizing as well) while holding the right people to blame. I'm ready to be called "crazy" and "authoritarian" for this idea. I don't care, since it is the only humane solution. Of course, I know that it will never be put into law, but I want to state my support for it anyway.
Correction, you have not seen a single case of pregnancy where a man wasn’t involved. Unless the child is a product of a rape, both mother and father are responsible.

How much contact do you have with women other than your mother? I’m sensing an overactive imagination.
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Jellyfish, you downplayed the evil of rape and advocated the "seduction" of women outside any relationship in the dehumanization thread. Your ideas on subjects of this sort are from a standpoint of pure misogyny and so are to be ignored at best.
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(and essentially end the horror of womanizing as well)
That is just too much. You are killing me with this stuff.
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I already know that this will never be put into law.
Yes, but thats not because people think you and your ideas are crazy. Its because of the reasons why I stated, which show that your beliefs on this idea are illogical and reasoned poorly.
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Look, this is the only idea I can stand. This is the only way of ending abortion without punishing women for an evil caused by males.
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