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Candidate for IDF chief rabbi: We must target terrorists in their beds
By Haaretz Service

The leading candidate to become the next chief rabbi of the Israel Defense Forces told the settlers' Arutz 7 news service that he supports aerial bombardments of the homes of members of terrorist organizations.

Colonel (res.) Rabbi Avi Ronsky also said the IDF must not just target areas in the Gaza Strip from which Palestinians fire Qassam rockets into Israel, but must also target terrorists in their homes and in their beds.

Ronsky said that only in this way would it be made clear to terrorists that Israel does not pardon attacks on its sovereignty and the killing of innocent Israeli civilians.

"It is not possible that we are in a sovereign state where citizens live under the threat of rockets and our response is strictly negligible. This is a cowardly response," Ronsky said.

He refused to answer questions relating to his candidacy for chief rabbi of the IDF.

Ronsky: Avoid treating wounded terrorist on Shabbat

Ronsky once issued a controversial ruling on whether an IDF medic should treat a terrorist on Shabbat.

In response to a question posed by a combat medic who was called on to treat a wounded Arab terrorist on Shabbat, Ronsky wrote in 1996 that "if it's possible to get out of it and not treat him [this doesn't mean that another Jew should do it, but that he doesn't get treated at all on various pretexts], one must do so."

The sentence appears in the fourth of five paragraphs, in an opinion that actually reaches the opposite conclusion - that the medic should treat the terrorist, for two primary reasons: the fear of "loathing" (it is liable to become known that the terrorist was left to die, leading to attacks on Jews), and the Shin Bet security service's need to question the wounded terrorist.

Ronsky's comments generated a stormy discussion in religious circles when they were first published, in a book of responsa on the army and wartime. Yosef Ahituv, an educator at the religious kibbutz of Ein Tzurim, wrote to Ronsky that the religious ruling "contradicts the ethical code" of the IDF, and is "unacceptable from my perspective" because Ronsky did not mention that the life of a non-Jew has value.

Ahituv said the explanation for why the terrorist should ultimately be treated is "shameful," and that people are liable to conclude that they should avoid treating the terrorists if they think they won't be caught, and asked, "Are you not concerned about the terrible desecration of God's name that could be caused by the mass publicity" of the comments?

Ronsky minimized the importance of the disagreement this week, saying the bottom line is that medics must treat wounded terrorists on Shabbat. He said he had not been writing anything original in referring to a situation in which a medic could refrain from treating someone, and that he had relied on the opinions of great sages.

"The life of a non-Jew certainly has value ... but the value of Shabbat is more important," said Ronsky. "When there is a clash between a directive in the spirit of the [IDF ethical] code and an order of Jewish law, it is clear that one must listen to the opinion of Jewish law."

This comes from Shamgar, Mr. Loving himself.

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bombing the homes of terrorists, that elicits a big "so what" on my part.

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An anti-Jew thread from Shamgar?

I am just...shocked.

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Frankly, orthodox jews always (*)(*)(*)(*) me off. They're always like, Printer2, be more Jewish! Jeez. At least they have tons of babies to keep the religion alive.

Sadly in Israel there are few connections between secular Jews and "Haredim"(orthodox Jews).......They have their own education,and living their own lives....

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