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Old 03-09-2006, 11:46 PM
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Default I present myself before you...

While the western world tears at each other over pointless arguments. The shallow and weak minded support the deceitful. The innocent give their lives and the guilty prosper. I present myself before what's left of decency in our culture.

I say our culture because I believe it does not matter what race you are or what nationality you claim. From the west coast of California to the fields of France, or the dikes of Holland. I believe we are all the same people and all share the same culture. More and more we are merging into a unified people. The creation of the Internet has hastened this process.

But this day I ask you, despite our differences - what will we make of our future. It is our future.

I believe that the political spectrum does not exist and never did. There are not two sides to every issue - condensing it to something so simple should be insulting to all of us. I believe that the majority is really in the center, and this dissension in politics is to distract us from what is really going on.

I ask you to open your eyes and ears to me. I believe the time has come to create a new government. I have begun writing the makings of a new government, from here a series of debates and delegations will be required. I have created a foundation, it is up to the people to transform my foundation into a monument of epic proportions.

I believe in a system for the people ruled by the people. A mix of communism and democracy - socialism and capitalism. A system without worldly leaders, where the people are the supreme rulers. The destruction of the bureaucracy - thus cutting out the middle men and freeing the world of corruption.

I want to abolish currency but before we could ever achieve such liberation we need to work towards that goal - not away from it. I view currency as the chains of humanity, some call 'financial freedom' liberating. There is no true liberation as long as there is currency - freedom will never exist through this method.

I don't believe freedom has ever existed under our current governments. Only a political tool to inspire the people under harsh nationalism. Whenever the people loose the patriotic feeling, the government always holds that tease of freedom over our heads. Expressions like 'Freedom isn't Free' etc are all political tools to motivate the people.

Our minds are like parachutes, they work better when open. I ask you this as an equal. I envision a society where all have equal rights - truly. Where there are no tyrants or fascist regimes. I ask you to join me in my dream, and contribute. Speak your mind - good or bad. But in it being good or bad state your logic.

Though the goal is great, I believe that the only boundaries that truly exist are those we create with our mind. After all, the only ones who end up changing the world are those crazy enough to think that they can.

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Default good luck with the project

It seems extremely well-intentioned, on first view...
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Default Impossible!

Don't you know there is a yen and a yang?

Right and wrong?

Good and bad?

The conflict is eternal.

Democracy is a breeding ground for tyranny. That is why the International Bankers have a hard time worming in to places like Iraq and Iran.
All "Big Money" can do is pit stooge nations like the United States against them and blow the hell out of them in order to bring them to heel.
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Democracy is a breeding ground for tyranny? Huh?
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I've only skimmed the Foundation of Government treatise, but it seems to me that it is self-contradictory. For example, you have statements like this...

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With the increasing control of bureaucracies in Americans’ life, comes the deep corruption.
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Take out the middlemen and you take out corruption. We have no need for bureaucrats and politicians.
But your economic/employment plan looks like this...

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So you have a Doctor, a doctor by good reason should be above a Janitor economically. But both should have equal rights. Now you have a doctor who has been working for 20 years, and a doctor who is fresh out of school. If the doctor who has been working for 20 years has been hard working for that time he or she should have a better standard of living than that of the one out of school.

This is the basic concepts of the Druvian Economical Structure. Every single known job is a class. When you go to school you choose which class you want to enter. From there you learn everything you need to know for that class. When you are done with schooling you enter society with that class. You will start out at level 1 merit, however if you work hard for that year you can move up to level 2; which would increase your standard of living.

You need to simplify economy. There are two major parts of the Druvian Economy. You have Necessity items and Luxury items. Necessity items are free to all, while your amount of luxury items is based on a percentage. Your choice of necessity items will broaden as your rise on the economy structure, as will your luxury percentage. For example a level 5 Doctor would have a broader range of houses to choose from than a Janitor, and would have a much higher luxury percentage. However no matter how low you are on the economy structure, all can receive the basic necessities to live.

Think of an employment system where no one is unemployed for an excessive amount of time. When you become unemployed, a business leader would see your name come up. With that your entire employment history, your skills etc. Anywhere in the society you could be hired. Businesses are regulated with employee numbers so if anyone becomes unemployed by sheer probability there is a business that needs to hire someone.
You condemn bureaucracy, then propose this system. Exactly how large of an army of bureaucrats do you suppose it would take to implement and maintain such a system? How many to study and classify everyone's job and "level"? How many to monitor such and enforce the system? How many to evaulate promotions and demotions between "levels"? How many to control fraud? How many to identify and regulate which goods are "luxuries" and which are "necessities"? How many to police the inevitable black market of luxury goods that will spring up? How many to regulate the employment system and make sure employee skills are accounted accurately? How many to administrate the dozens of agencies you'll need to run the system?

Sounds like you would have a system similar to East Germany during the Cold War - half the country doing nothing but monitoring and reporting on the other half. So much wasted time and effort.
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Democracy is a breeding ground for tyranny. That is why the International Bankers have a hard time worming in to places like Iraq and Iran.
Yeah, and Iraq and Iran certainly wernt known for tyranny eh? heh heh

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All "Big Money" can do is pit stooge nations like the United States against them and blow the hell out of them in order to bring them to heel.
If so, it seems to be working. Resistance is futile.
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Default There is culture tyranny & alien tyranny

At least, the local tyrants run their own countries. Big Money can't get in and run their affairs for them.

The International Bankers want to rule the world. They can't as long as local dictators keep them out.

After all, that was what Hitler was - a local dictator. He was legally elected. More of a populist than a dictator.

The Internationlists hate Populists.
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You condemn bureaucracy, then propose this system. Exactly how large of an army of bureaucrats do you suppose it would take to implement and maintain such a system? How many to study and classify everyone's job and "level"? How many to monitor such and enforce the system? How many to evaluate promotions and demotions between "levels"? How many to control fraud? How many to identify and regulate which goods are "luxuries" and which are "necessities"? How many to police the inevitable black market of luxury goods that will spring up? How many to regulate the employment system and make sure employee skills are accounted accurately? How many to administrate the dozens of agencies you'll need to run the system?

Sounds like you would have a system similar to East Germany during the Cold War - half the country doing nothing but monitoring and reporting on the other half. So much wasted time and effort.
There is a very long discussion on the technological side to the government. A very long and complex system of technological advancements to take the place of bureaucrats. All of your questions have been thought out and solved, if you are interested contact me on msn - dmorris@axedio.com. The official technical document - The Wires Behind the System - is not yet complete so I could explain to you on msn how it works.
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There is a very long discussion on the technological side to the government. A very long and complex system of technological advancements to take the place of bureaucrats. All of your questions have been thought out and solved...
Well, post your proposed solutions when you can. Until, then, I remain skeptical...
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There is a reason it I am not posting it as it is not ready to be published. You can email me or contact me on msn - dmorris@axedio.com for both.
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