Yup the jews got us into war with Iraq. . .they want us in war with Iran and now they are starting another front in Israel. . . World War III here we come. ..

http://www.haaretzdaily.com/hasen/spages/692252.html
Fri., March 10, 2006 Adar 10, 5766
Hamas: Olmert's border plan is declaration of war

Khaled Meshal, the head of Hamas' political bureau, views Acting Prime Minister Ehud Olmert's plan to shape Israel's permanent borders as a declaration of war on the Palestinian people, the French news agency AFP reported Friday.

A short time later on Friday an EU official said that aid to a Hamas-led Palestinian government may have to be cut off "unless it seeks peace by peaceful means."

Meshal said Olmert's plan is not a peace plan, but constitutes "unilateral moves that will allow Israel to remain in most of the West Bank through construction of the fence, leaving in its hands the settlements and Jerusalem and rejecting the right of return," according to the report. Meshal was quoted as saying that "Olmert is repeating Sharon's mistakes."

Olmert's plan slammed
Israeli politicians from both the right and left also criticized Olmert on Friday and spurned unilateral action.

Olmert told Haaretz on Thursday that if he is elected prime minister, Israel will set down permanent borders within four years, separating itself from the "decisive majority" of the Palestinian population of the West Bank. He also said he will build up the disputed E-1 zone between Jerusalem and the West Bank settlement of Ma'aleh Adumim, despite American opposition.

To read the full interview, click here [ http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/692693.html ].

"Olmert's withdrawal plan is the most extreme leftist plan that has ever been presented to the Israeli public," MK Gideon Sa'ar said Friday. "What [Ehud] Barak offered at Camp David, in exchange for a permanent agrement and the end of the conflict, Olmert is planning to give without getting anything in exchange and with no agrement."

MK Uzi Landau, who ran against Benjamin Netanyahu for the Likud chairmanship after leading the campaign against the disengagement plan, said Olmert's proposed borders would not create enough distance from Hamas and told Israel Radio that voting for Olmert "is like letting a small child play with matches."

"This plan explains why Abu Mazen wants Olmert to win the elections," said Landau. He was referring to Landau was referring to an interview Palestinian Authority Chairman Mahmoud Abbas gave to an Italian newspaper. He was quoted as endorsing Olmert, but later disavowed the comments.

Labor Party chairman Amir Peretz said Olmert had not stated who he planned to hold negotiations with, and warned that unilateral action would be "a very serious mistake." He called for talks with Abbas.

Olmert said he plans to offer the settlers a deal in in an effort to reach an agreement about Israel's withdrawal line in the West Bank: convergence into the large settlement blocs and the expansion of those blocs in exchange for evacuation of settlements beyond whatever border is set.

"I believe that in four years' time Israel will be disengaged from the vast majority of the Palestinian population, within new borders, with the route of the fence - which until now has been a security fence - adjusted to the new line of the permanent borders," he said.

"It could be that there will be cases in which we move the fence eastward, and it could be that there will be cases in which we move it westward, in accordance with a line that we will agree upon. We will take a crucial step forward in the shaping of Israel as a Jewish state, in which there is a solid and stable Jewish majority that is not at risk."

Olmert will attempt to garner domestic and international support for shaping Israel's permanent border with the Palestinians. He wants to make sure Israel holds on to Ariel, Ma'aleh Adumim, the Jerusalem envelope and Gush Etzion; establish the Jordan Valley as a security border and provide the Israel Defense Forces with freedom of action in the West Bank, similar to the post-disengagement situation in the Gaza Strip.

Olmert also promises to build up the E-1 area linking Jerusalem and Ma'aleh Adumim. The plan was frozen last year due to American opposition, but according to Olmert, Israelis agree there should be contiguity, while the Palestinians and Americans recognize there will be.

"It is completely clear that the contiguity between Jerusalem and Ma'aleh Adumim will be built up," said Olmert. "This is clear both to the Palestinians and to the U.S. In my opinion, on this matter there is a full consensus in Israel."

Meretz-Yachad chairman Yossi Beilin said Friday that while he does support continued Israeli sovereignty over Ma'aleh Adumim - a point Olmert raised in the interview - he completely opposes building up E-1.

"Whoever proposes building up E-1 is essentially preventing a permanent Israeli-Palestinian agreement," Beilin told Israel Radio. "Whoever builds up E-1 is preventing a contiguous Palestinian state."

Olmert said there is now a "window of opportunity" for reaching an international agreement on setting the border, in the wake of Hamas' rise to power and domestic support following the Gaza pullout.

If the Hamas-led Palestinian government accepts the prerequisites of disarmament, recognition of Israel and acceptance of previous agreements, Olmert is prepared to negotiate with Hamas based on the roadmap. But his comments indicate he doesn't think this option has much of a chance.

I believe you. Our Washington Hereos are so in the pockets of the International Bankers they grovel to their every whim.

Going to war with Iran will probably bring WW3.

Peaceful neighborhoods in America, unable to imagine what war is actually like, will find themselves dying, running, dodging and watching everything being blown to bits - all because of Israel!

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hehe, I don't follow. Isnt this what the Palestinians want? The Israelis set a permnane tborder. The Palestnians get a country. The Israelis take the settlements out of the West Bank, add some to Jerusalem and take it. The Palestinians have a state. Tada!

And exactly how is WWIII coming? What, Iran is now as powerful as Germany and Japan were?

I think the Palestinians want their homes back.

They don't hate the American people. They hate the rich Jews here who have too much power and they hate our government for financing Israel.

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Which homes?

Thats their problem. America is a democracy and everyone is allowed to enter politics and influence policy. Rich Americans muslims have the same right to petition against Israel.

Every nation lobbies the United States for support- except those that are so belligerent that they want to provoke a confrontation with us. Moreover, while the refugee crisis is a serious problem, remember that those people are refugees because the Arabs wouldn't accept the U.N. compromise, attacked the Jews and lost. The losers in such wars often become homeless, and sometimes future generations are homeless as well. The refugee crisis can't be dealt with, however, until the majority of Palestinians oppose terrorism, and the majority of Palestinians clearly showed their support for terror by voting Hamas into power.
Finally, addressing Shamgar, GinnaRM, Catholic and anyone else who hates Jews, you obviously have problems and you're taking them out on Jews, since historically Jews have been a convenient target. You need to deal with your problems. See a psychiatrist, take medications, go to group therapy... do whatever it takes to fix yourself and stop living in an imaginary world where Jews are plotting against you. The fact is that Jews are not causing your problems and, unless you are willing to help yourselves instead of blaming others, you're causing your own problems. I'm not going to judge you. Perhaps you've been through some terrible trauma, but the bottom line is that only you can fix your problems, and blaming a minority group isn't going to solve anything. Get psychiatric help of some sort. There isn't any shame in that. I go to a psychiatrist and take three psychiatric medications. Sometimes the most responsible thing you can do is ask for help. One thing that will get you nowhere is denying the nature of the underlying problem, and forming conspiracy theories to blame others is doing precisely that.

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First of all, ForceofTruth,
You are no different than dozens of other Jew apologists. They all claim any criticism of the Jews, regardless how truthful, is "hatred" and that those of us who point a finger at them have mental problems. That is nothing less than sheer indoctrination.

If you are going to live up to your name (ForceofTruth) you really should try to search your own beliefs and consider that you might be programmed to believe that way.

After all, the Jews have spent nearly two thousand years and millions upon millions of dollars on two kinds of propaganda, attack propaganda and defensive propaganda. In other words - lies. Lies making others look evil and lies making them look saintly.

Here is just one link you might want to read, providing you can take your blinders off long enough to get through it.

http://www.the7thfire.com/new_world_...n_the_jews.htm

Hopefully, the link works.

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Dollars didnt exist before America. So they couldnt have been spending dollars for 2000 years.

Perhaps, I should have said the Jews burned the midnight oil creating a defense for themselves while unjustly attacking others.

Are you now going to detract from my post by saying they had no midnight oil?

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I have no idea what you're referring to. Midnight oil? Defense of something? Attacking someone?