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Old 03-20-2006, 09:09 AM
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He doesn't mean they looked for and found a weakness. He means they stumbled on to the weakness. Which was response time. It takes time for the FAA to realize there's a hijacking, locate planes with transponders shut off and call NORAD.
Actually that’s not true per se, you know flying a huge Boeing 757 or 767 is not like driving a car, you can’t just make 360 degree turns in two seconds and make last minute course adjustments, the planes are simply not maneuverable enough.

You need to adjust your course from many many miles away, If you’re heading for a goal, you have to “lock in” on that goal from many many miles away, that’s the way it works.

The hijackers had to deviate from course almost immediately in order to have enough time to align with targets, normally speaking this is the wakeup call for the NORAD and the FAA even if the course adjustments would be minimal, which they were not, they were drastic.
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since 9/11 and see how long it takes them. Many hijackings had taken place prior to 9/11 that primarily endangered only the passengers. There is no way those planes would have been shot down.
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I agree that it would have been a P.R. nightmare.

The graver mystery to me is why no one (in Government) took all the warnings seriously. In today's Mousouii (sp??) trial, the F.B.I. guy retold his frustrated attempts to warn people about mad Mid Easterners training to fly planes. It is believable -but not at all provable- that this administration chose not to interest themselves in the threat because they knew a terrorist action would play into their global stategic plans. The history of the U.S. has had many such tragedies that are similarly suspect. Remember the Maine! and Lusitania, Gulf of Tonkin, even Pearl Harbor.
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The alternative explanation is that because the various agencies literally get 1,000's of such tips every week they can't look into them all.
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I agree that it would have been a P.R. nightmare.

The graver mystery to me is why no one (in Government) took all the warnings seriously. In today's Mousouii (sp??) trial, the F.B.I. guy retold his frustrated attempts to warn people about mad Mid Easterners training to fly planes. It is believable -but not at all provable- that this administration chose not to interest themselves in the threat because they knew a terrorist action would play into their global stategic plans. The history of the U.S. has had many such tragedies that are similarly suspect. Remember the Maine! and Lusitania, Gulf of Tonkin, even Pearl Harbor.
Great post. I agree, we would not have shot the planes down at that time w/ all those passengers. But, it is interesting that no military planes were in the air. After they tried to blow up the trade centers before, we knew this was their agenda. I think our admin. knew a lot more than they let on. I think they chose to look the other way. They prefered to wait and react rather than concentrating on preventing a terrorist attack, and I believe we are no safer NOW than we were pre-911. The US is like "I dare you to try it again -- this is what you'll get (meaning Afghanistan and Iran)" -- this administration is a bunch of kooks. Even being willing to sell our ports to the part of the world that hates us the most. Too much "manliness" going on in this country. It's time for a woman to lead.
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So, because the trade center was bombed via truck bomb in the early 1990's, we should have jets in flight all over the country just in case a plane is hijacked? That seems a bit much, no? Especially since you agreed that the (*)(*)(*)(*) jet was not going to do anything anyway! So why bother?
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Yes sir. What about it?
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The writer of this ridiculous nonsense is the cousin of homeland security head Michael Chertoff! So sort your facts properly people, this is a joke, propaganda,if you say it it is true! Ha ha ha ha ha!

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Maybe you could take apart their argument, then?
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