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Old 03-20-2006, 06:59 AM
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New World Order Here We Come! . . .The One World Religion is poking out it's head. . . and guess who is at it's head. . .a jew. . .

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Last Updated: Monday, 20 March 2006, 03:53 GMT
Rabbi calls for 'UN of religions'
By Danny Wood
BBC News, Seville

The Chief Rabbi of Israel, Yona Metzger, has called for the creation of a world body with representatives from the major religious groups. Rabbi Metzger was addressing the International Congress of Imams and Rabbis for Peace in Seville, Spain. He called for the formation of a "United Nations of religious groups".

The Imam of Gaza, Imad al-Faluji, said politicians lied but religious leaders had a different objective - to work towards a higher good. The imams and rabbis at this conference, which opened on Sunday, say the world is in crisis and it is time they acted to restore justice, respect and peace.

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The delegates have made it very clear that now is the time for concrete initiatives. At the opening ceremony Rabbi Yona Metzger said his idea of a "United Nations of religious groups" could "bring a bridge between religions to help the bridge of the diplomatic way". That plan has broad support from key participants like Frederico Major, the co-president of the Alliance for Civilisations, the lobby group for international conflict resolution, supported by the United Nations and initiated by Spain's Prime Minister, Jose Luis Rodriguez Zapatero.

The speeches at this conference rather than using polite, diplomatic language have at times been brutally direct. When the Rabbi Metzger harangued mainstream Muslims for not standing up to Osama bin Laden, Islamic leaders nodded in agreement. Both Muslim and Jewish leaders have shown a preparedness to take criticism. There have also been strong expressions of opposition to any killing in the name of religion.

At the end of the opening ceremony, the Muslim delegation sang an oration to the Prophet Mohammed before resuming discussions about the ideas they plan to present to their Jewish counterparts. The religious leaders have three days to come up with a manifesto that aims to convert their words into actions.
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What a terrible idea! Just imagine: people of all faiths learning to make consensus and live peacefully with one another, learning to communicate with one another and understand where each is coming from! Surely only Satan could cook up such a plan!
God's way has always been holy war and holy slaughter. How terrible that this Jew decides to ruin thousands of years of history by encouraging peaceful resolution and understanding. What would Jesus think? I bet he'd head over there with his AK-47 and blow everyone away. That would be the loving thing to do. Send them all to Hell where they'll burn forever and ever because God loves them so.
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What a terrible idea! Just imagine: people of all faiths learning to make consensus and live peacefully with one another, learning to communicate with one another and understand where each is coming from! Surely only Satan could cook up such a plan!
Yup it sure sounds like your propganda is not the way to go. . . as "peace" = Slavery to a worldly minded religion. . .yeah I can just see the "teachers" of the this new religion. . . “marked with God's finger”

Also, one of the most effective propaganda methods in Asia was to establish “teachers” to teach reading and indoctrinate people at the same time. The prestige of the intellectual - “marked with God's finger” - allowed political assertions to appear as Truth, while the prestige of the printed word one learned to decipher confirmed the validity of what the teacher said.

Jaques Ellul, “Propaganda: The Formation of Men's Attitudes” (New York: 1973) Page 110.
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You really are a glass-half-empty guy. The purpose is to allow people of varying faiths to get along. It is a way for people to keep to their individual faiths without getting into nasty fights, also allowing them to get together for common causes (such Beastly acts as <gasp> charity). At what point are they trying to establish a world religion? All they are doing, which might very well conflict with your motives, is keeping different faiths from destroying and fighting with one another when they do have common ground.
But of course it's the same argument you have with the UN and with democracy itself. In your mind, it seems consensus is oppression and slavery. Funny. I'd prefer consensus to war and hostility any day. Amazing how we in the West sometimes take it for granted.
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I swear to God that I will pay everyone on this site $100 if Shamgar can go 24 hours without quoting that "Propaganda" book.
Have everyone tell me when they have received the money and I will gladly make sure you lose your $100.00/ each. . but no jew would make such a promise and keep it so here goes again. . . .

Also, one of the most effective propaganda methods in Asia was to establish “teachers” to teach reading and indoctrinate people at the same time. The prestige of the intellectual - “marked with God's finger” - allowed political assertions to appear as Truth, while the prestige of the printed word one learned to decipher confirmed the validity of what the teacher said.

Jaques Ellul, “Propaganda: The Formation of Men's Attitudes” (New York: 1973) Page 110.
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