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Old 03-25-2006, 05:40 PM
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Well, there IS a chestnut about how on the internet, all rational debate ceases when someone brings up Hitler. .
Yeah a propagandist like you who brings in propaganda. .who of course doesn't desire discussion. . .

Propaganda cannot be satisfied with partial success, for it does not tolerate discussion. As long as noticeable or expressed tension or a conflict of action remains, propaganda cannot be said to have accomplished its aim. It must produce quasi-unanimity, and the opposing faction must be negligible, or in any case sense to be vocal. Extreme propaganda must win over the adversary and at least use him by integrating him into its own frame of reference.

Jaques Ellul, “Propaganda: The Formation of Men's Attitudes” (New York: 1973) Page 11.

Jews are not alone in their high rates of exogamy. American hyphenated Greeks, Puerto Ricans, Mexicans, Poles, Czechoslovakians, Italians are undergoing high levels of intermarriage. But there are differences. They have a higher birthrates than Jews; Jews are the oldest mean-aged ethnic group in America; the Jewish birthrate barely matches its mortality rate; all this within two generations of our having lost fully one-third of our numbers in Hitler's war against us. In Argentina , where anti-Semitism seems endemic, the number of practicing Jews has declined from 500,000 to 300,000 in the last generation. The decline, ironically, is not attributed to anti-Semitism per se as to assimilation-------itself the product of weakening Jewish educational institutions.

Nathan Perlmutter and Ruth Ann Perlmutter. “The Real Anti-Semitism In America” (New York: 1982) page 291.

ex·og·a·my Audio pronunciation of "exogamy" ( P ) Pronunciation Key (k-sg-m)
n.

1. The custom of marrying outside the tribe, family, clan, or other social unit.
2.Biology. The fusion of two gametes that are not closely related.

“And ye shall be left few in number, whereas ye were as the stars of heaven for multitude; because thou wouldest not obey the voice of the LORD thy God. And it shall come to pass, that as the LORD rejoiced over you to do you good, and to multiply you; so the LORD will rejoice over you to destroy you, and to bring you to nought; and ye shall be plucked from off the land whither thou goest to possess it. And the LORD shall scatter thee among all people, from the one end of the earth even unto the other; and there thou shalt serve other gods, which neither thou nor thy fathers have known, even wood and stone. And among these nations shalt thou find no ease, neither shall the sole of thy foot have rest: but the LORD shall give thee there a trembling heart, and failing of eyes, and sorrow of mind:” Deuteronomy 28:62-65

“Thou shalt be blessed above all people: there shall not be male or female barren among you, or among your cattle.” Deuteronomy 7:14

. . . and what do zionists desire. . . a jew land for themselves. . .the "PC" jews want a land where jews rule. . . . .

http://www.israelpr.com/sharonspeech1006.html
. . . An immigrant-absorbing state [Israel] which constitutes a national and spiritual center for all Jews of the world and is a source of attraction for thousands of immigrants each year. Aliyah is the central goal of the State of Israel. This is the country we wish to shape. This is the country where our children will want to live. [What kind of immigrants are they willing to absord. . .jews - aliyah n. pl. a·li·yahs, also a·li·yot (äl-t) The immigration of Jews into Israel.]
Prime Minister Sharon's Speech at the Herzliya Conference
December 18, 2003

aliyah n. pl. a·li·yahs, also a·li·yot (äl-t) The immigration of Jews into Israel.
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Old 03-25-2006, 06:31 PM
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Lo, in my experience, unless it's about something theoretical that nobody has a real stake or interest in, there's going to be opinion coming out. That's probably why I prefer blogs to the MSM...at least with the former, you know where they are coming from, rather than people pretending to be objective. Still, I understand what you're saying.
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Lo, in my experience, unless it's about something theoretical that nobody has a real stake or interest in, there's going to be opinion coming out. That's probably why I prefer blogs to the MSM...at least with the former, you know where they are coming from, rather than people pretending to be objective. Still, I understand what you're saying.
hahahahahahaaaaaa you're a propagandist who is "objective"?. . .hahahahahahahaaaaaaa. . .cult drone with an agenda is more the exact description. . .
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Let's see why would the arabs need to get more clout than the jews in America. . unless the jews had a monoply on the clout. . . . .wow it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure that out. . .

From www.danielpipes.org | Original article available at: www.danielpipes.org/article/288
The New Anti-Semitism
by Daniel Pipes
Jewish Exponent
October 16, 1997
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A second theme concerns the need to gain more clout than American Jews. American Muslims repeatedly declare an intent to match and overtake Jews; they view almost every aspect of their political existence in the United States -- population size, fundraising capabilities, clout in Washington -- in terms of this competition. Echoing a common ambition, the intellectual Ali Mazrui holds that "By the next century, Muslims may be as influential as Jews in influencing policy."
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