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Well, if conventional bunker busters would work, to avoid fallout, I support using them rather than nuclear weapons. Thank you for the information, Sinanju.
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First of all, the article is pure propaganda. They are taking quotes with no context, and then editing out half the quote anyway.
Perhaps you could show us the full quotes and what it is that you're talking about. Michelle Malkin is no slouch, nor is she a propagandist. She's also just as apt to call President Bush on things she feels he's doing wrong as she would anyone else.

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Harry Reid simply said that we should be doing more to address the situation diplomaticly.
Diplomatically? Like what?
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He said nothing about relying less on other countries. He simpy said we should join those countries in persuing a diplomatic end to the problem.
That's odd. It seems to me that he's saying quite the opposite.
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S-S, you undoubtedly know much more about military technology than I do. Would it be possible to destroy Iran's nuclear program with conventional bunker busters or would nuclear ones be necessary?
The point of Bunker Busters is to put a great deal of explosive power into a small area. That is hard to do with conventional weapons; we can make an explosion equal to a mini-nuke with conventional explosives, but it will not be as concentrated.

That is the appeal of the nuclear bunker busters. Penitration.

A lot of people do not like them because they are nuclear, and yes, they do produce fallout just like normal nukes. But the affected area is extremely small compared to normal nukes...measured in a few miles total. They are not meant to be used as precision weapons. You cant use them in the middle of a city. But for situations like what we saw in Afghanistan (hardened bunkers deep in remote mountains) they are useful.
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Well, to the best of your knowledge, S-S, are the Iranian nuclear facilities buried too deep to be destroyed by conventional bunker busters?
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I dont know. That is why no one has committed to actually using them. Only to keeping the option open.
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Okay, then I'll take the same stance. If conventional bunker busters penetrate well enough, then we should use those; but if they don't, we should use nuclear bunker busters.
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"to avoid fallout"

Fallout is bad... unless you are in a nightclub full of hawt chicas!

But the nukulah bunkerbusters have very minute amounts of irradiated fallout. Furthermore, we could just airburst the entire country a few times... minimal fallout... maximum damage.

For the record though, I am against nukulah action in the ME... I would hate to ignite the oil.

I need it for my two SUVs, my volvo, my golf carts, and my boat.


(I am working on getting a pilot's license and a Cessna.)
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I think that the Crats should elect themselves a new leader, preferably one that has a personality.
I'd go for Levin... but I'm biased.
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The last competent Democrat with a personality has already served two terms.

Airburst nukes are never an option unless we are effectively under attack. I am unwilling to slaughter people simply so I can drive my SUV. I will never support killing for economic reasons. Ever.
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He said nothing about relying less on other countries. He simpy said we should join those countries in persuing a diplomatic end to the problem.
That's odd. It seems to me that he's saying quite the opposite.
I would like you to show me a quote in that article that supports what you "seem" to think.
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