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Old 04-21-2006, 11:45 PM
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Default Iran already has nukes.

You guys have got to be kidding yourselves, right? Do you think all the boats from North Korea are bringing in rice and fish?
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Old 04-22-2006, 12:14 AM
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Default Oh, here's an idea!

Let's have the air force solve the problem! They can do it!

After all, they have such a good track record of solving problems.

WWI - Pilots from both sides waved at one another before realizing they should bring a pistol and shoot at each other.

WWII – Over 1,000 bombers almost completely miss the 50 mile stretch of Normandy. Instead, they take out a lot of expensive livestock and frighten many French peasants a few miles to the north.

Korea – Need I say more?

Vietnam – We bomb half the forest and our own troops with agent orange and still get the crap kicked out of us by infantry.

Kosovo -- If you are a decoy, watch out. A bomb is going to drop on you. It's probably safer to stay by the REAL tanks that the sats can't spot, as anyone with a telescope is able to track when the stupid things are going overhead. But hey, a sat flyover is really expensive, so it MUST be good.

Afghanistan/Iraq – Here's an idea. Let's fire $300,000 dollar cruise missiles at camel jockeys. Need to take out a terrorist safehouse? There's no need for a simple tank shell. Why not call in an F-18 and waste $1,000 worth of jet fuel? Why not? Then we can target the building with a satellite, map the area with CAD, run thorough analysis of the structural weaknesses, call up the blueprints, etc., etc.
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Old 04-22-2006, 07:28 AM
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Default You first Mack

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First of all, the article is pure propaganda. They are taking quotes with no context, and then editing out half the quote anyway.
Perhaps you could show us the full quotes and what it is that you're talking about.

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Harry Reid simply said that we should be doing more to address the situation diplomaticly.
Diplomatically? Like what?
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First of all, the article is pure propaganda. They are taking quotes with no context, and then editing out half the quote anyway.
Perhaps you could show us the full quotes and what it is that you're talking about.

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Harry Reid simply said that we should be doing more to address the situation diplomaticly.
Diplomatically? Like what?
"We should be involved at trying to arrive at a diplomatic solution"
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We already are.

So I guess Reids point is that he has none.

He just saw an opportunity to conduct a baseless attack on Bush probabyl and likely rightfully in the belief that most Americans aren't paying close enough attention to know he's pissing in the wind.

He and Pelosi especially have been conducting themselves in that manner for a couple of years now. They say alot but then quickly back away from most of what they say if any real interest is focused on whatever the issue may be.
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First of all, the article is pure propaganda. They are taking quotes with no context, and then editing out half the quote anyway.
Perhaps you could show us the full quotes and what it is that you're talking about.

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Harry Reid simply said that we should be doing more to address the situation diplomaticly.
Diplomatically? Like what?
"We should be involved at trying to arrive at a diplomatic solution"
Diplomatic solution? Like what? Aren't we already doing this at the present?

Also, you forgot to answer this one:
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First of all, the article is pure propaganda. They are taking quotes with no context, and then editing out half the quote anyway.
Perhaps you could show us the full quotes and what it is that you're talking about.
Here let me re-state the requests yet again in another format:
1. You claim Michelle Malkin took Sen. Reid out of context. Show us which context you are talking about by posting his statements in context, and how it is you support this claim.
2. You claim Harry Reid wants us to do MORE to address the Iranian situation diplomatically. As DuH has stated... we are. What do you suggest we do beyond that? How more diplomatically can we approach this that we aren't already doing diplomatically?

There, that's the third time I've asked you politely.
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Default Oh come on

Harry Reid was elected by the majority of Nevadans, which are, of course, located primarily in Las Vegas. Has not this city shown us how responsible they are in electing representatives at all levels of government? The City Council in particular is what I am particularly fond of.

One thing I have to give Nevada though--low state taxes.
Kinda helps to have casinoes though.
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Let's have the air force solve the problem! They can do it!
I agree. It seems to be the most effective branch when it comes to power projection. Even the Navy is largely reliant on aircraft and missiles.

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After all, they have such a good track record of solving problems.
I agree.

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WWI - Pilots from both sides waved at one another before realizing they should bring a pistol and shoot at each other.
If you are fighting in a war, that seems like common sense to me. Waving is only appropriate if your are surrendering.

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WWII – Over 1,000 bombers almost completely miss the 50 mile stretch of Normandy. Instead, they take out a lot of expensive livestock and frighten many French peasants a few miles to the north.
Mistakes happen. War is hell. Not sure what you are expecting.

Ironically, you seem to be whining about collateral damage here, yet also whine about the use of expensive precision weapons below, the whole point of which is to avoid such collateral damage. There is just no pleasing some people.

Oh wait...that isnt Ironic. It is hypocritical.

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Korea – Need I say more?

Vietnam – We bomb half the forest and our own troops with agent orange and still get the crap kicked out of us by infantry.
We pulled punches...we did not use every weapon available to us.

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Kosovo -- If you are a decoy, watch out. A bomb is going to drop on you.
Maybe. But we won. Which is all that matters.

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It's probably safer to stay by the REAL tanks that the sats can't spot, as anyone with a telescope is able to track when the stupid things are going overhead. But hey, a sat flyover is really expensive, so it MUST be good.
Or good enough to win anyway. Which is all that matters.

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Afghanistan/Iraq – Here's an idea. Let's fire $300,000 dollar cruise missiles at camel jockeys.
Yeah, because carpet bombing is so much better...oh, wait a minute. You poo-pooed that too. Maybe we can just give them a big hug and hope they surrender. Or maybe try waving at them because it worked so well in WWI.

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Need to take out a terrorist safehouse? There's no need for a simple tank shell. Why not call in an F-18 and waste $1,000 worth of jet fuel? Why not?
I cant think of a reason why not. Sounds like a good idea to me. Precision weapons dropped by that F-18 mean innocent people are less likely to be killed.

The weapons are expensive for a reason.
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