Well, Rota, I believe your veteran story more than I believe that you're dumb enough to believe your conspiracies.
Your misconceptions:
1. Only two of my jobs are government. The other is private sector. They're all part-time. The two main ones (one private; one public) are boring as hell. That's my only complaint. The government job knows that I'm looking for a full-time position so... they cut down my workload. My job has taught me a lot about government inefficiency and bureaucratic silliness firsthand. I don't need conspiracy websites.
2. The welfare workers I was saying you never see happy were not those in my position (we're just poor, not depressed), but those you ATTACKED, those who do the serious jobs, those who in fact, unlike me, have graduate degrees specifically for social work. I know quite a few of them. They advise me not to go into social work. They'd love to get into something else. But you claim that they're conspiricizing to keep people poor to keep their jobs... Most of what they hate about their jobs is that they don't make a difference.
3. I don't care about looking "great", especially not on this forum... unless you're hiring. The three jobs (which used to be four and school, so actually it's pretty (*)(*)(*)(*) easy... only 45 hours altogether) thing, though true, is an illustration of why it doesn't pay to be the average welfare worker, not the type you ATTACK, but the poor sap who winds up being a caregiver. I feel sorry for people who depend on that job. But you probably think that they're part of some conspiracy.
4. This one's for Force: My schedule's not all that exhausting these days. Both of my main jobs have cut down on work (one is closing; the other just knows I'm going to leave when I get a chance and strives to make me less useful... Only government). and I graduated. Unless I have an interview on a given day, I have to say things are getting boring.

All Rota proves, as he once again ruins a topic and doesn't even do it in a funny way, is the lengths to which his cynicism goes. Minimum wage caregivers are part of the global zionist conspiracy. So is everyone just about.
Rota, either everyone you've ever met is pure slime or you are pure slime and project your personality on to others. Those can be the only explanations for your cynicism and your ability to believe everything... EVERYTHING is part of some conspiracy.
I think you're just bitter against Jews because the doctor lopped off too much during your circumcision.

So I admit to shirking at my boring-@$$ jobs. Where do you get the time? From the sounds of it, you're a "legendary" professional forum poster.

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No wonder JavaBlack doesn't understand conspiracies. The peons at the bottom just do what they are told and have no understanding as to why decisions are made way above their paygrades.

I think he really understands it though but nice try trying to make it seem the grunts at the bottom have to understand and agree to the policy made at the top. Maybe I can help you though. Just ask yourself just who gets helped by these services? Why is there just a small percentage of people that ever escapes government dependancy? Why does generation after generation of the same families get dependant on the government. If these services were designed to succeed this would never happen and the cycle would have been broken years ago.

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Unlike you, he forgot to wear a tinfoil hat.

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No unlike me he needs a job and can't (*)(*)(*)(*) the elite off. I'm not in a position that I have to grovel for anything and can speak my mind freely. You sound like you are in the same boat he is in. Hang in there, some day you too might shed the chains of slavery. LOL

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Originally Posted by rota";p=&quot It very simple to explain. You have a very big government organization of white people making real nice salaries to run the welfare program. It is not in their best interest to have less people recieving their help. It is in their best interest to have more people recieving their help. So you make sure the potntial welfare person remain ignorant by not educating them properly, on drugs and brainwashing them into feeling they were victims of the white man and deserve welfare and the next thing you know you have generations of the same family on welfare. Once you have all this in place then these welfare people count on welfare and thus have to vote for politicians that will continue and grow the program. So in essence they vote for a living. Voting money out of my pocket into their pockets and the Welfare pimp's pockets. The Democrats have enjoyed a solid minority vote for many years. Just under the surface of all this is racism. These racist don't want minorities competeing in the market place for the high paying jobs. So you tell minority women in order to recive welfare they cannot be married. So she gets rid of the husband since the government is now her provider. Of course the husband feels useless and becomes scum. He'll sneak over for a booty call whenever the women lets him but other than that he is not needed. Great way to destroy the minority family structure. But the minorities fall for it and do not recognise there is a big price to pay for this stuff. They don't realise you don't get something for nothing. This all came about after the civil war. The democrats had to figure out a way to get blacks to vote for them while at the same time keeping them from competing with the white man in the job market. They found the blue prints for their plan in the bible. Destroy the family structure and you destroy the human spirit.

If I am understand your comments right, you are making the assumption that the majority of people on welfare are black. Now lets see blacks make up 13% of the population in this country which means that only 3 or 4% of black people are actually on welfare rolls. Now I could be wrong but sounds too me like there is probably a whole lot of white people getting a check and food stamps every month also. Now lets us move on the majority of black people work everyday I own my own business and my wife invest in real estate, we have two children that we support and take care of everyday. Welfare is a myth and sterotype that people such as your self have lumped on the majority of black people. Tell you what don't take the cameras to the welfare office in the hood take it to the one in the country or suburbia and you might be alittle surprised to see who the majority is standing in line. Peace.

What size TF hat do you have to wear over that Elvis toupee?

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On a serious note, how much do the fiscal experts here think that anti-substance abuse program would cost per year?

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Ah, so you live at home with the folks. Sounds free to me.
I know what's going on? In your definition of what's going on? Yes and no.
I realize that welfare programs generally aren't doing a great job of helping the poor (also realizing that their absence doesn't help much either). But I don't need a conspiracy theory to figure out why that is.
The people in the bureaus try to what extent they can, especially those that actually work directly with the poor. The problem is that they must work within the structure. The tructure of all bureaucracy is pretty much the same. They worry about efficiency, net results, and securing profits. Politicians set the goals. Politicians are elected by the people.
And as much as they'll never admit it, most people just don't want to think about the poor. They want them out of the way. They either want to lump them all as scoundrels or all as people needing help. Government is slow to figure out that not all poor people are the same and not all have the same needs. Departments are compartmentalized and each believes in its solution first and foremost. Departments are slow to form relationships with one another to get things done right. Poor people are numbers in government. It's not some conspiracy. It's just the nature of bureaucracy.
If there's a better way, I'm all for it.
And in the meantime, yes, I need some paychecks. I refuse to leave my fiancee alone to pay off my old debt. I feel little guilt about getting done what I am charged with and then taking the pay for the other hours I was promised. God, I'd love a salary job. I should probably feel more guilt about shirking at my sales job which actually expects more of me, but... I don't. Oh well. I'm an @$$hole, just like everyone else in retail. Retail brings out the worst in everyone. I don't shirk, however, at my lowest paying, fewest hours position as a caregiver.

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Long-term welfare is NOT needed. I say longterm because some might think of unemployment benefits as welfare (short-term). Unemployment is sufficient at six months in my opinion. If one can't find a job in six months they're either not looking or have screwed up so bad with past employment that they're no longer a desirable employment prospect. If your job doesn't pay enough; get a different job or a second job. If that doesn't help; you need to cut your expenses. As a last resort, bankruptcy can eleviate those expenses for a fresh start. If you bring a child into the world & are unable to pay for that child you should either put it up for adoption or be charged with child-endangerment.