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Old 05-15-2006, 01:31 PM
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Default What Are the Reasons People Need Welfare?

By welfare, I don't mean disability payments or medical entitlement programs. I am referring to direct wealth transfers for people who aren't disabled. I want to know what the causes of chronic poverty are. These need to be addressed in a way that can lessen the need for welfare. Obviously, single parenthood is very difficult for the poor, but there must be other factors involved. Are drugs and alcohol to blame for most other chronic poverty, or are there problems of which I am unaware? I appreciate all replies. Thank you very much.
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It very simple to explain. You have a very big government organization of white people making real nice salaries to run the welfare program. It is not in their best interest to have less people recieving their help. It is in their best interest to have more people recieving their help.

So you make sure the potntial welfare person remain ignorant by not educating them properly, on drugs and brainwashing them into feeling they were victims of the white man and deserve welfare and the next thing you know you have generations of the same family on welfare.

Once you have all this in place then these welfare people count on welfare and thus have to vote for politicians that will continue and grow the program. So in essence they vote for a living. Voting money out of my pocket into their pockets and the Welfare pimp's pockets. The Democrats have enjoyed a solid minority vote for many years.

Just under the surface of all this is racism. These racist don't want minorities competeing in the market place for the high paying jobs. So you tell minority women in order to recive welfare they cannot be married. So she gets rid of the husband since the government is now her provider. Of course the husband feels useless and becomes scum. He'll sneak over for a booty call whenever the women lets him but other than that he is not needed. Great way to destroy the minority family structure. But the minorities fall for it and do not recognise there is a big price to pay for this stuff. They don't realise you don't get something for nothing.

This all came about after the civil war. The democrats had to figure out a way to get blacks to vote for them while at the same time keeping them from competing with the white man in the job market. They found the blue prints for their plan in the bible. Destroy the family structure and you destroy the human spirit.
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Obviously hasn't seen what most welfare workers make. Pays more to work at McDonald's... and less depressing.
But seriously,
I don't get your question. Are you asking literally why people need welfare or what are the causes of poverty or what form should welfare take?
They're all different questions and there is no consensus other than that we need reform of some kind.
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I don't get your question. Are you asking literally why people need welfare or what are the causes of poverty or what form should welfare take? They're all different questions and there is no consensus other than that we need reform of some kind.
Other than actual disabilities, what are the main causes of chronic poverty (which necessitates public welfare)?
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Ignorance.
People need better education. Not just the schooling, but they need to learn howto learn, how to find jobs, how to keep jobs, and how to compete in our system. These aren't just instinctual behaviors. They must be learned. And after generations without education, who is there to teach?
Also there is a certain fatalism that understandably grows with poverty, a sense of no control. This leads people to self-destructive behavior and keeps them from living to their potential.
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Would these be steps in the right direction? First, require all employers to provide licensed day care for the children of single parents who can't afford it. Second, have the government pay for high-quality private substance abuse rehabilitation for anyone- no questions asked.
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Obviously hasn't seen what most welfare workers make. Pays more to work at McDonald's... and less depressing.
Your full of it....government workers make more than most private jobs out there. They get more holidays off than the private sector. It's almost impossible to fire them and their retirement plan is the best retirement plan anywhere.
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Obviously hasn't seen what most welfare workers make. Pays more to work at McDonald's... and less depressing.
Your full of it....government workers make more than most private jobs out there. They get more holidays off than the private sector. It's almost impossible to fire them and their retirement plan is the best retirement plan anywhere.
Depends on whether it's a full-time merit job or a crappy temp part-time one like I've got. In addition, another job I have is probably more common than that: caregivers who get paid minimum wage and get no benefits andf need multiple clients to get full time hours. Thankfully I've got three jobs.

And while there is a tendency for bureaucracies to go through great lengths to keep their size and funds and resist change, I have not seen any actions performed by any bureau that are done for the purpose of making problems worse. They might go outr and look for more problems. They might inadvertantly create troubles for other bureaus. But they don't go out and purposely create poor people to serve.
You show your lack of experience in government bureaucracy by your assertions that departments are even corordinated well enough to set in motion such a conspiracy. You attribute to conspiracy what can easily be linked to the stupidity of bureaucracy.

And when have you ever seen a welfare worker who's happy? Do you honestly believe someone would get a Master's degree in social work and become completely depressed and more disillusioned everyday... because it's such an easy way to make a living... Please.
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What do you think of these ideas, JavaBlack?

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Would these be steps in the right direction? First, require all employers to provide licensed day care for the children of single parents who can't afford it. Second, have the government pay for high-quality private substance abuse rehabilitation for anyone- no questions asked.
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1. Employers wouldn't hire the parents that need those services.
2. Substance abuse treatment is already provided. The problem is that a lot of the people in it don't take it seriously. They should only offer it to people who really are serious about it and willing to put up at least some kind of payment.
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