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Yes. We have a moral obligation to support democracy even when it is not convenient for us. 5 45.45%
Yes. We have a practical obligation to demonstrate our sincerity by honoring their wishes. 4 36.36%
No. US interests come first. We have invested too much to pull out now, even if they want us to. 1 9.09%
No. We know what they need better than they do. It is in their own best interests that we stay until we feel they are ready to handle things on their own. We should stay until we feel they are ready, even if it is contrary to their wishes. 1 9.09%
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It has been suggested on here that the US would not respect the wishes of
the Iraqis if they asked us to leave immediately. I want to find out once and
for all what people on here think.

Assuming the Iraqis asked us to leave tomorrow, and assuming it was
completely legitimate, should we respect their wishes and leave even if it
runs counter to US interests?
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Iraq is a mess. We caused it. We stay until it's fixed. Although I don't think we had any legitimate interests in Iraq before the war, cutting early would likely result in Iraq becoming the very terror outpost we wrongly accused it of being before the war. So, we would only be causing ourselves more pain by leaving before the job is done. If we cared what Iraqis thought about our presence we could have asked them before the war.
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Then your answer should have been "Yes. We have a practical obligation to
demonstrate our sincerity by honoring their wishes.". That option is
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That would not be my answer at all. Yes means we leave. I clearly said we stay.
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For me, it's actually a mix of the first two.
Personally I don't think we can trust any polls on the issue.
But mostly I think we have a moral obligation to make sure things turn out alright. In doing so, we have practical reasons to show our sincerity and to prevent Iraq from becoming a terrorist-producing machine. But mostly, we must justify what we've done by actually improving the quality of life for the people of Iraq. I'd rather we be remembered as liberators rather than destroyers even if that does not necessarily reflect our original reasoning.
We should support democracy whenever possible. Under no circumstances should we support a collapse into a failed state.
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When we invaded did we ask them? No. We stay until we fix what we broke. Otherwise Iraq will become what we said it was.
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Me: Even if it is against their wishes?

When we invaded did we ask them? No.
We stay until we fix what we broke.
Translation: "No Sadistic-Savior. We should not leave until the job is done,
even if they ask us to"

I'm not used to such equivocation from you...why are you so reluctant just
to come out and say it?

The correct answer you should have chosen is the Option #4,
the last choice on the list.
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And how exactly can you accurately poll them without a democracy being set up and functioning?
It seems we need to finish the job before we can even manage to figure out if they really want us there or not.
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