Originally Posted by quiller";p=&quot

Anyone who went through the Cold War knows you are glossing the real story here. Liberals are precisely the enemy they appear to be.

Originally Posted by Rebellion";p=&quot

I'm disappointed that the Republicans haven't been as conservative as advertised. I didn't do 1-16 since they were jokes and part of a previous post. Figured I'd address the add ons!

Originally Posted by Rebellion";p=&quot

No, actually it's government sanctioned punishment. And innocent life is sacred, conservatives don't believe Al Qaeda life to be sacred thus we have no problems killing them on the battlefield. We and even many liberals have no problems killing murderers because their life also is not sacred. Whereas an innocent child who has not had the chance to explode a bomb on a bus or murder a family clearly is innocent. The distinction is quite clear.

Originally Posted by Rebellion";p=&quot

I think we get a passing grade and I think we do better than most other countries. Japan, Russia, France...the list is long in terms of countries where minorties do not fare well compared to the US. It may not be an A, but it's passing. And affirmative action and other types of discrimination do nothing to improve it.

Originally Posted by Rebellion";p=&quot

All illegal immigration, no one is claiming it will stop it 100%. They are saying it is one step, which it is. A step.

Originally Posted by Rebellion";p=&quot

Ok good luck, there is no seperation of church and state clause in the constitution.

Originally Posted by Rebellion";p=&quot

Neither is prosecuted and I disagree they should be jeered equally. One party is destroying property in order to insult the flag and the other is commiting a technical violation while trying to honor it. Nowhere near the same. Intent matters...a lot.

Originally Posted by caffeineaddict70";p=&quot

That line of thinking contradicts the Sixth Commandment. It doesn't say, "Thou shalt not kill unless they blew up your buildings or killed someone else." It says, "Thou shalt not kill." There are no addendums. Yes, there are other Old Testament laws with which it aligns, but it also contradicts several of Christ's teachings (specifically Matthew 5-7) as well as Romans 12: 18-20 ("If it is possible, as far as it depends on you, live at peace with everyone. Do not take revenge, my friends, but leave room for God's wrath, for it is written: 'It is mine to avenge; I will repay,' says the Lord. On the contrary: 'If your enemy is hungry, feed him; if he is thirsty, give him something to drink. In doing this, you will heap burning coals on his head.'")

Originally Posted by omegaman";p=&quot

Liberals are destroying America (they are without question socialist and communist): Who agrees?

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There are so many more I chose to select only some of the worse. The proof of the goals of the liberals in power is overwhelming. I am interested in any liberal TRYING to defend this FACT.

Originally Posted by omegaman";p=&quot

My post can be used to bring an indictment in this case. Remember in a Grand Jury, where this indictment must be brought, only the prosecutor (me) can be present. No other information is given to the jurors. We must make this as close to the real thing as possible.

Only the prosecutor (that would be me) is allowed. You come in later at the trial after the indictment. I DON"T agree with this but it is the way our judicial system works so we should follow it.

Originally Posted by nonsqtr";p=&quot

c) on the conservative-leaning side, perhaps Rebellion in addition to the two you have listed (you weren't trying to stack the jury, right?)

Originally Posted by nonsqtr";p=&quot

The crux of my argument, in relation to the charges being brought against "liberals", rests in the United States Constitution, Amendment 14, paragraph 1. To wit: "...nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws".

In other words, if you want to indict the "liberals", you also have to indict the "conservatives" (at least today's version of them). 'Cause I've just shown you, that they're equally as bad.

When it comes to the business of running the country, which is the job of our elected representatives, no one can say that the Republicans are any better than the Democrats.

I submit, for your consideration, the following:

1. The largest reversal in the budget deficit in US history.
2. The largest national debt in US history.
3. The largest foreign debt in US history.
4. The most expansive federal government in US history.
5. The most expensive new entitlement program in US history.
6. The biggest federal spending increase in US history.
7. The biggest number of increases in the debt cieling (under a single administration) in US history - 13 so far, going on 17.

This is the nature of the Republican beast, these days.

Now, you can make "moral" arguments in relation to the liberals, and in many (heck, maybe even most) cases I "personally" might even agree with them. But it's not "me" who has to do the judging, it's the jury.

And the jury is constrained by the 14th Amendment, which explicitly instructs it to give equal protection to Democrats and Republicans alike. So, I ask you - what's worse? A sexually explicit book on the wrong bookshelf in the library, or a national fiscal policy that's so irresponsible it's going to affect our children for many generations to come?

What's worse? A terrorist that kills a couple of soldiers with a roadside bomb, or a highly paid executive who forces fifty thousand senior citizens into lifelong poverty by fleecing them of their retirement savings?

What's worse? A tax that affects the top one-half of one percent of the richest people in the country, or a massive set of federal red tape that affects a million and a half people along the Gulf Coast and prevents them from getting emergency supplies when a disaster hits?

I don't have the answers. But this is what you have to decide. You have to decide whether a single accused group ("the liberals") is responsible for all these problems, or whether the fault is more general, and applies to a broader group of people for a broader set of reasons.

Because if you can find similar fault with any other group, you must vote to acquit. Those are your instructions, according to the Constitution that you've sworn to uphold.

I rest my case.

Originally Posted by omegaman";p=&quot

“We the People versus the Liberal Democrat Party”

Case # 6606 Liberals are destroying America

Notes (History):
1) This case has been submitted to a Grand Jury and on the preponderance of the evidence it was decided enough evidence existed to continue to trial. The trial has been going on for several weeks now with both the prosecution and the defense presenting their sides. The defense has presented its closing arguments and rested their case. The following contains the final summary and closing arguments of the prosecution.
2) This case is unique in that it is not a trial of an individual or even a group of individuals who have committed a specific crime per say, but rather a past, present, and on going point of view which has been taken by many groups such as the media, Congress, PACs, and the like to push for a particular end. This end, also forced upon the American people by the courts, is one of destruction, as the indictment has presented, the prosecution has alleged, and the evidence shows.

How many people have no concern for their children when they put them on the bus on there way to their local public school today? Worried about what they will be exposed too? What about concern over some teenagers, who after watching some video game over and over again, decide to shoot a few dozen children and teachers, possibly yours?
Who among us worry about the constant, for more than three decades now, condemnation of anyone who publicly speaks out about their deep belief in GOD and his unquestionable absolutely necessary presence in the formation, and successful continuation, of our way of life, our republican government? Who among us is not sickened by the latest US Supreme Court ruling that effectively eliminates all private property ownership in our country? More than 6,000 Americans have had their home taken from them and sold, at a price set by the government, to others who claim to be able to benefit “society” more than the original owner. The unprecedented increase in teen pregnancy, sexually transmitted disease, promiscuity, homosexuality, bestiality, teenage murder, drug addition, and dependence on government that we have experienced in our country over the last three decades, all caused by this liberal point of view which is spread everyday from all sorts of sources, media, schools, government, courts, the ACLU, the SPLC, and many others. Are these things a danger to our way of life, our country as we know it? The answer is an unquestionable YES. This destruction, slow but sure, of our country has not gone unnoticed.

Over the last 50 years, the radical left has established a pattern of winning minor precedents from an activist judiciary system then slowly building on those precedents to warp the interpretation of the law and erode the fundamental foundations of our society.

The original Supreme Court decisions banning prayer and Bible reading from the public schools, for example, while controversial, raised little alarm from Christian churches at the time. In fact, the three chief cases that abolished school prayer; Engle v. Vitale (1962), Murray v. Curlett (1963), and Abington Township School District v. Schempp (1963), did not elicit a response from any Church to the Court during its deliberations. This is because people did not realize the destructive results these decisions would have on the public school system and our culture.
How the times have changed. Today many teachers are forbidden to wear even a small cross as a piece of jewelry, kindergarten children are threatened with expulsion for praying over milk and cookies, the "Declaration of Independence" is banned because it mentions God, and in Knox County, Tennessee, 10 year olds have been banned from reading their Bibles at recess. (The school district claims recess is not "free time" but part of the instructional day.) The goals of the left have been achieved; students must now abandon their Christian beliefs as a prerequisite to receive an education. What started with the Courts controlling what administers of tax payer dollars could to with the money for its beneficiaries, has evolved into what the beneficiaries of public funds must do in order to receive it. American children today must either be atheists or run the risk of being expelled from school and denied and education.

For centuries a small but powerful clique has been working towards the day when they will be able to force the United States and the nations of the world to submit to a one world government. The United Nations is a mere pawn in the arsenal of these conspirators. They are planning for the day when they can compel the American people and the nations of the world to accept a one world monetary system, which they will control, as a precursor to a one world government run by the slave masters in charge of us in the NEW WORLD ORDER.
From the beginning they have known that in order to enslave us they would have to de-Christianize America. They have been very successful at eliminating Christianity and the Bible as the moral compass of our nation. They have succeeded by using the federal courts which they ideologically dominate to remove Christianity and Bible study from our schools and all public institutions. It has been their plan to promote a breakdown of our families and our morality and they have been very successful in this regard. How have they done it? They exercise near complete control over Hollywood, Television and nearly all print and publishing media. They continuously produce obscene films and lascivious television shows, intentionally flooding our nation and our minds with pornographic images for the express purpose of destroying the moral fiber of our people. They have used the ACLU to remove every last vestige of God and Christianity from the public arena.

There is simply not enough room in this forum to present the enormous amount of evidence just publicity available that clearly and unquestionably shows the continued destruction of America by Liberals. The charge presented here does not allege that all people involved in this destruction are part of a planned organized plot to destroy America, although many certainly are. These people however do not see it as “destroying” America but as “re-inventing” it, as their perverted view of some kind of world utopia. Regardless of an individuals reasons or lack of knowledge, of what the end to their means are the end is destruction of America. This destruction will continue until enough people not only realize what is going on, which the majority of Americans do, but also take a stand to put a stop to it before it is too late. This case is one of those stands taken toward that end, the defense of our country and all that it stands for.
We, the people of America appreciate and thank the jury for their patience, understanding, and serious consideration of this all important issue. We await your decision.
End of closing arguments.
Case # 6606 is submitted