Liberals are destroying America (they are without question socialist and communist): Who agrees?

ACLU;

I am for socialism, disarmament, and ultimately for abolishing the State itself as an instrument of violence and compulsion. I seek the social ownership of property, the abolition of the propertied class, and sole control of those who produce wealth. Communism is the goal."
Roger Baldwin, founder of the American Civil Liberties Union.
Quoted in the National Federation for Decency Journal, September 1988. Page 9.

It should come as no surprise that the most obnoxious organization in America—the ACLU, is also a key member of the OBL. Roger Baldwin, founder of the ACLU was quoted as stating, “I don’t regret being part of the communist tactic…I wanted what the communists wanted." The ACLU is boldly listed upon the Communist Party USA website in the civil rights category along with Amnesty International, the Anti-Defamation League, and Tolerance.org (a project of the Southern Poverty Law Center).
The other key members of the open borders lobby are the National Lawyers Guild and the Center for Constitutional Rights. The former was founded in 1936 by the Communist Party USA. In 1978 this group was described by the CIA as the most useful communist front organization in the service of the Soviet Communist Party. The latter organization was founded by pro-Castro subversives Morton Stavis, Ben Smith, Arthur Kinoy, and William Kuntsler. Each one of these men are longtime members of the American communist movement.

SPLC;
Dees made a fortune selling cookbooks by mail in partnership with Millard Fuller [who later founded Habitat for Humanity.] [Fuller, Millard. Bokotola. New Century Press: 1977] Fuller has this to say about his 8 year association with Dees:

"Morris Dees and I, from the first day of our partnership, shared one overriding purpose: to make a pile of money. We were not particular about how we did it; we just wanted to be independently rich. During the eight years we worked together we never wavered in that resolve." The SPLC's fund-raising practices have provoked the disapproval of watchdog groups that monitor charities: In 1993, the American Institute of Philanthropy assigned the SPLC a 'D' grade on a scale of A to F. [American Institute of Philanthropy xxxx 1993 Charity Watchdog Report] Perhaps explaining the SPLC's 'Gay' rights activism, Dees was cited in 1979 by his ex-wife with a homosexual encounter during their marriage. She also cited numerous affairs with women including his daughter-in-law and underage stepdaughter. [Alabama Court of Civil Appeals CIV 2114, 1979] Randall Williams who formed Klanwatch in 1981 as part of the SPLC's said in 1988: "We were sharing information with the FBI, the police, undercover agents. Instead of defending clients and victims we were more of a super snoop outfit, an arm of law enforcement. Randall and four staff attorney's resigned from the Center in 1986. [The Progressive>, July 1988.] USA Today reported in 1996 that Dees' Southern Poverty Law Center was the "nations richest civil rights organization" with $68 million in assets. [USA Today. Aug. 3, 1996] Today it is closer to its stated goal of a $100 million endowment. In the same article Stephen Bright, one of Dees numerous former associates told a reporter that Dees is "a fraud who has milked a lot of very wonderful, well intentioned people."
IPS;The Institute For Policy Studies was formed in 1963 by Peter Weiss and Cora Rubin, daughter of Samuel Rubin. The organization is funded by the Samuel Rubin Foundation. Samuel Rubin was a member of the Comintern of the Communist Party, which was the inner circle of Lenin, and helped foment the Russian peasants into revolt in 1917. He left Russia at some point during the revolution, and came to the U.S., where he made a fortune using the name, "Faberge", for his cosmetic company."The IPS is described as a Washington-based "Think Factory", which helped train extremist who incite violence in the United States and whose educational research serves as a cover for intrigue and political agitation" (FBI file 175-39. Another description given is that the "IPS apparently exercises considerable influence in the New Left Movement and may have as its goal the destruction of the United States Government" DEREK SHEARER, a member of IPS, has been described as one of Bill Clinton's closest friends. Roger Altman (former Sec. of Treasury) stated, "Derek is a very old and close friend of Bill Clinton's, and among the advisers he is probably the oldest and closest friend." George Stephanopolis describes Shearer as both "a friend and adviser". Derek Shearer is the step-brother of Strobe Talbott, who was the former editor of TIME magazine, and Bill Clinton's roommate at Oxford. Derek's sister, Brooke Shearer, is a very close friend of Hillary Clinton, and is her frequent traveling companion. Prior to the 1992 election, Clinton appointed Shearer as his top economic adviser (Wall Street Journal - Sept. 11, 1992).
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These are only some of the most powerful and most dangerous liberal organizations who's goal is the destruction of America.
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Below are the 21 oaths that ALL democrats in power take privately ---

1. You have to be against capital punishment, but support abortion on demand.
2. You have to believe that businesses create oppression and governments create prosperity.
3. You have to believe that guns in the hands of law-abiding Americans are more of a threat than U.S. nuclear weapons technology in the hands of Chinese and North Korean communists.
4. You have to believe that there was no art before Federal funding.
5. You have to believe that global temperatures are less affected by cyclical documented changes in the Earth’s climate and more affected by soccer moms driving SUVs.
6. You have to believe that gender roles are artificial, but being homosexual is natural.
7. You have to believe that AIDS virus is spread by a lack of Federal funding.
8. You have to believe that the same teacher who can’t teach 4th-graders how to read is somehow qualified to teach those same kids about sex.
9. You have to believe that hunters don’t care about nature, but loony activists who have never been outside of San Francisco do.
10. You have to believe that self-esteem is more important than actually doing something to earn it.
11. You have to believe that Mel Gibson spent $25 million of his own money to make "The Passion Of The Christ" for financial gain only.
12. You have to believe the National Rifle Association (NRA) is bad because it supports certain parts of the Constitution, while the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) is good because it supports certain parts of the Constitution.
13. You have to believe that taxes are low, but ATM fees are too high.
14. You have to believe that Margaret Sanger and Gloria Steinem (feminists) are more important to American history than Thomas Jefferson, General Robert E. Lee, Thomas Edison and Alexander Graham Bell.
15. You have to believe that standardized tests are racists, but racial quotas and set-asides are not.
16. You have to believe that Hillary Clinton is normal and is a very nice person.
17. You have to believe that the only reason socialism hasn’t worked anywhere it’s been tried because the right people haven’t been in charge.
18. You have to believe conservatives telling the truth belong in jail, but a liar and sex offender belonged in the White House.
19. You have to believe that homosexual parades display drag, transvestites and bestiality should be Constitutionally protected, and manger scenes at Christmas should be illegal.
20. You have to believe that illegal Democrat Party funding by the communist Chinese Government is somehow in the best interests of the United States.
21. You have to believe that this message is a part of a vast, right-wing conspiracy.
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If you believe in any of these 21 you are part of the problem, not the solution.
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There are so many more I chose to select only some of the worse. The proof of the goals of the liberals in power is overwhelming. I am interested in any liberal TRYING to defend this FACT.

Baldwin also lead a movement within the ACLU to kick out any communist sympathizers in the ACLU later is his life. Nothing about the current ACLU is communist. The ACLU is very anti large government, which makes socialism and communism completely incompatible with the organizations beliefs.

Zionists invented communism
The Democratic Party gets most of it's donations from Zionist
Most Democrats are Liberal
Liberals are destroying the U.S. using communist tacics and big Government.

But then

Big Business openly fund many communist front organizations
Big Business are dominated by Zionist
Republicans are pro big Business
Republicans get elected to downsize Government but triple the size instead
Republicans are destroying the U.S. using communist tactics

Seems like you just can't win no matter which way you go.

Baldwin became less happy with the Popular Front approach and concerned about the very existence of the ACLU after the announcement of the Nazi-Soviet Non-Aggression Pact in August 1939. The following spring, in an effort to stave off criticisms of the organization and the cause he had devoted much of his adulthood to, Baldwin orchestrated a campaign to revise the ACLU charter. Henceforth, those affiliated with totalitarian organizations would not be allowed to serve on the ACLU board. The immediate target was the former-Wobbly and present Communist Party member, Elizabeth Gurley Flynn....
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Only when he felt his beloved ACLU was in trouble and he feared it's destruction did he then "revise the ACLU charter". This after he spent "much of his adulthood" creating it. This does not impress me but rather shows that he, like all liberals in power, will say or do ANYTHING to achieve their goal. This also makes him a hypocrite unless you truly believe he changed his heart and mind after spending his life supporting the opposite. If you think he did then he WASTED most of his life fighting for the wrong thing. Either way it doesn't really matter. He WAS a communist, the ACLU has NOT changed it's communist roots at all. THey take the very same communist or socialist positions on many issues as they did during Baldwins time. You hear those positions everyday, from supporting illegal aliens stealing American citizens property to the removal of GOD from America, certainly a communist agenda.

rota wrote:"Zionists invented communism "
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Zionist: A Jewish movement that arose in the late 19th century in response to growing anti-Semitism and sought to reestablish a Jewish homeland in Palestine. Modern Zionism is concerned with the support and development of the state of Israel.

Communist: A political doctrine based on Marxism–Leninism (also called scientific communism) which has as its central tenet the communal ownership of property used in productive processes, and thereby the abolition of private property. While many social and religious communities based on communally shared property have been recorded throughout history, the origins of contemporary communism are associated with the theoretical writings of Karl Marx. Marx's theories have been developed and adopted by many communist and socialist parties, and these developments have been used to legitimize both the policies and the internal organization of these parties.
Karl Marx: German philosopher, economist, and revolutionary. With the help and support of Friedrich Engels he wrote The Communist Manifesto (184 and Das Kapital (1867-1894). These works explain historical development in terms of the interaction of contradictory economic forces, form the basis of all communist theory, and have had a profound influence on the social sciences.
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While ALL countries have communist organizations, including Israel and the United States, the Zionist certainly did NOT "invent communism".

Luthernism was the major Protestant denomination of Christianity where Marx lived. Marx and his family were nominally Christian. Karl Marx was raised in an essentially non-religious home and he adopted atheism.
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Hardy a Jew.

1. The ACLU thing is unimpressive. I've seen it before. What side projects the founders had has little meaning to the actual goal of the organization as it is shaped by its workers. Ever hear of the ACLU getting involved in property disputes? Nope. Just speech. They even defend right-wing Christians on occasion. Must be part of their evil conspiracy.
2. I love the "these are only some..." line. Leave it to our imagination. Got news for you. All interest groups and think-tanks are equally disingenuous, one-sided, and irritating whether leftist or rightist. You just can't see it when it reflects your own disingenuousness, one-sidedness, and irritation factor.
3. The 21-oath thing was pretty funny. I can't tell whether you made it up or got it from a blogger. All I can tell is that it's complete BS. Crats no more have to obey party-line than Pubs. And certainly few of them espouse views to that extreme on everything. And just to be sure, you can check out the Humor forum to see that there is a Pub hypocrisy to mirror every Crat hypocrisy you point out. Frankly, that's where your list belongs.
4. Let's see if I'm part of the problem. I'm a liberal, so I should be after all.
I am against capital punishment. I'm also against abortion. The same is true of a lot of liberals. And only the extremists believe in "abortion on demand".
Both that and its opposite are true to some extent. Businesses do indeed create oppression when they have too much control over their workers. And the likelihood is that without a functioning government, you don't get prosperity. However too much government creates oppression and business is necessary for economic prosperity. Frankly if you believe this or its opposite to the fullest extreme, something is wrong. Truth is in the middle... not on the right.
You and your strawmen... No one believes this. I'm against gun control. I also think nukes are dangerous in some hands, but also doubt the ability to enforce their nonexistence. But come to think of it, how crazy do you have to be to think China would use a nuke. North Korea is a problem because it has nothing to lose and a madman at the helm... but China.
Funny. But most liberals read. Some believe it's important to fund art. I personally don't.
I personally don't care. I think we should cut the crap and worry about fixing the problem, whatever causes it. However I am rather unimpressed with the soccer moms driving gas guzzlers everywhere in a time of high oil prices.
OK. I believe that. Yay! I can be part of your problem... all because I choose to pay attention to science... (*)(*)(*)(*).
No. But it is spread by ignorance. Do the math.
And their parents who failed to teach them to read before first grade are somehow qualified? And frankly it wouldn't be an issue if the parents were willing to teach about it instead of waiting for their out-of-wedlock grandkids.
Nope. Don't believe that at all. Most liberals don't. You're thinking of PETA. That's a fringe group. Once again, you take the wackiest of the wacky and make it the norm. It's like me generalizing you as a neo-nazi.
Strangely, you can't earn self esteem without having it in the first place. The problem is that some get self esteem and ego mixed up. Including many who feel they've earned it.
I don't know and I don't care. But it's not all that far-fetched. He did make a lot of money and get publicity the likes he hadn't seen since Lethal Weapon. I do think all Hollywood celebs are attention-whores... I thought that was my conservative side... How is Mel Gibson different?
Nope. I'm okay with both. You on the other hand are okay with one and not the other. And personally I don't know anyone who hates the NRA BECAUSE they protect the Constitution. Cute rhetoric though.
Was not aware that ATM fees were a partisan issue. As for taxes, depends on the time and what the people want government to do.
Right. Every liberal believes that a couple radical feminists that most have never heard of are more important than Jefferson. Where do you get this crap?
I believe that the latter are in fact racist and the former are more class-centered. Standardized tests are a waste of time and a poor indicator of education or educatability. Quotas are a poor attempt to fix the problem of racism... by embedding it into the system. I'm against all of the above.
What's normal? I've never met Hillary. She might be nice for all I know. And if she isn't... who gives a %&*#?
Socialists believe that, no doubt. Most Crats don't. I don't. I also don't believe that laissez faire capitalism shows any signs of working perfectly.
Depends. Is it a conservative that tells the truthful statement "I murdered 27 people last Wednesday"? If so, I think he should be in jail. And I don't think that a guy who faked a sick day and got caught p!$$ing on the side of a building should be barred from the presidency... Ah... You mean the infamous Bush and Clinton, eh? Both sides exaggerate these two to whichever extreme suits their agenda. Truth is both have their good and their bad.
Not bestiality. That's illegal. As for the rest fine, as long as it's privately run and they got a permit. Manger scenes are okay too as long as they're privately run and they got a permit. But none of that 10 commandments in the federal court #$%&.
They've already got the Pubs because of the business lobby. Personally I'm for a complete revamp of campaign finance laws. I'm sick of lobbyists... I'm surprised that didn't make your list.
Nope. Just believe it's dumb. Sounds familiar. My god! You did get this off a humor page!

Thankfully I get to be part of the problem because I agreed with one. Thank God. I was doubting my liberalness. How could I go on if I were not part of your problem?
Explain to me why it is that conservative pundits are the leading authority on what a liberal is.
And what exactly is the "fact" you want me to challenge?

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Told ya about Omega and Rota before... locking these two conspiracy nuts in a cage would be a hoot.

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You're from Meeeeeshigoon, (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*). You'll manage.

Well, it's like this, Day-Twah Denizen. Out here closer to Jackson, where the Republican Party was born Under the Oaks (and all that sacred swill), we actually ARE conservative and live within our means. Metro Detroit does not. The GOP has failed to change that. The moderate Michigan GOP is an utter failure, locked in an absolutely medeival thrall to L. Brooks Patterson. And I for one take that sort of thing with foul humor.

The rest of Michigan looks at the GOP in this state and can't see a (*)(*)(*)(*)ed dime's worth of difference between them and the worthless Democrats.

John McCain took Michigan. He must not do so again --- and as for Shrillery, may she bomb in the primaries, disgraced by Clintonista grime.

Actually Ithink one of the things I like about Michigan is our moderate streak. The Crats tend not to be too socialist. The Pubs tend not to be too conservative... except in Detroit where they're socially conservative and fiscally radical (my worse political nightmare). But I live in Oakland County where most of us are fiscally conservative and socially liberal- regardless of political affiliation.
And with that in mind... How the hell did Jen win the Crat primary? I really have to start voting in primaries.
Incompetence or Amway... Incompetence or Amway... This next election is going to suck.
I like McCain, so I think that's a point for Michigan.

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