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Old 06-15-2006, 01:09 PM
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Default John Murtha: Mr. Clueless

John Murtha said on the House floor today that he "sees no progress at all in Iraq." AND again stated that "we can't win in Iraq militarily."

What IS wrong with this guy????

My question is......with all this good news in Iraq right now and it looking more and more each day that Iraq is turning around....how is Murtha and the other Democrat leaders...like John Kerry.... going to try and re-position themselves later? They have put themselves into the position that IF Iraq is ultimately a success...they ARE SCREWED! They have to hope for failure. It's the only way they can be right on the issue.

OR....will John Kerry try to make you all believe that he's been on the side of this war and winning in Iraq all along? He's done an 180 turnaround before. So, I'm betting he'd simply try it once again.

Geez. The Dems' leaders are truly making First Class Fools of themselves.....each and every day! It's pathetic.
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Default don't discount Murtha's take on Iraq

being a strong advocate for the military provides him with sources of genuine information, from the soldiers themselves, about what is actually going on in Iraq.
seeing the one-sided 'mission accomplished' propaganda emanating from this mis-administration likely causes him to present a different view for the public to consider.
since i subscribe to the pottery barn rule, 'we broke it we have to fix it' (which is NOT 'stay the course' - keep doing the same wrongheaded things), Murtha's perspective is troubling. the comparison to Viet Nam, and the refusal of the government to expose the realities of that conflict, is becoming more apparent.
our soldiers are the ones who will be the casualties if Murtha is right and the administration refuses to level with the very public it is supposed to serve.

wake up America! (and pray for our troops)
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The Crats are shiftless and slimey when they don't take risky stands.
They're crazy and evil opportunists when they do.
Just can't make you happy, can they?
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Default I hope Murtha is wrong, however

We have just lost 2500 Americans since the invasion of Iraq.

Another $63 Billion in "emergency" aid for the war was passed today.

Progress is certainly slow, expensive and deadly.
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Just can't make you happy, can they?
The Crats are shiftless slimey crazed evil opportunists.

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The Crats are shiftless and slimey when they don't take risky stands.
They're crazy and evil opportunists when they do.
Just can't make you happy, can they?

Actually they're making me very happy right now. I can't imagine going into the fall elections with a better situation. Dems are split on the war; Dems are full of corruption among themselves, aka Patrick Kennedy, Rep Mollahan, and Rep Jefferson; the economy is great, inflation is still low, interest rates are still low, employment is good, and gov't revenues are growing faster than anytime in the last 25 years meaning Bush may meet his prediction of cutting the deficit in half within 3 years!!!!
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Default A Vietnam veteran's thoughts on Murtha

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John Murtha said on the House floor today that he "sees no progress at all in Iraq." AND again stated that "we can't win in Iraq militarily."

What IS wrong with this guy????
Military officer candidate programs try to weed out these grasping political opportunists, but they are so widespread it seems no officers' mess comes without at least one per military unit. We surely had those treacherous people in Vietnam, such as when Hanoi John Kerry met (against U.S. military regulations) with officials from North Vietnam (a hostile entity) and then went on to lie about the Vietnam Veterans Against the War, and lie about atrocities which never happened in Vietnam.

Hanoi John Kerry is as worthless as the same military insider like Murtha, who would hand the U.S. defense posture to the UN. I and they are Vietnam veterans. I believe Murtha needs sedation and Kerry needs jail. I don't just believe, I freaking well know in the marrow of my bones I speak for a majority of veterans from that same war.

I spent six years in military service during that same war, and I served in that same combat zone as Murtha, volunteering to support my nation and support its causes abroad. Murtha, the worthless backstabbing wretch that he is, erodes such causes at home. John Kerry, gutless treasonous steaming pile of bovine excrement that he is, turned tail and ran. Wow---what a pair of men among men, brave stalwarts of American defense!

John Murtha can tongue-kiss my feces-crusted anal orifice, and accept my row of service ribbons straight up his own, as my salute to his national service.

John "War Hero" Kerry, lying filth that he is, would appreciate a creative use for discarding one's ribbons as a symbol of extreme protest---yes? (Here's your Official Clue, you treasonous rat --- I will use my own medals, not steal others like you did, in support of other lies you told.)

I hope someone writes every lie Kerry ever told onto the walls of his cell, and then covers those words with vandalproof plastic so he can have something to read (and alternately deny he said them, or else boast how clever he was) --- until he dies a broken old man in a cage.

In Murtha's case --- the other professional Vietnam War Veteran --- just ignore him.

John Murtha and the occasional professional crackpot writing letters to Stars & Stripes or The Army Times do not, repeat do not, represent the mind-set of the United States military.

I mean, get real here. The left adores generals that any sane President would fire, like Clarke. Why wouldn't they like deadwood preaching their sermons to legions of their lock-steppers? What's not to love about that, libs, gazing at those ribbons on the general's chest as he tells you America's all wrong and only you brave Sons of Trotsky can set things straight?

Idiot droolers like Murtha should be diapered and strapped onto high-chairs, lining the ward where they and their crazed mumblings are soon forgotten.
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The Crats are shiftless and slimey when they don't take risky stands.
They're crazy and evil opportunists when they do.
Just can't make you happy, can they?

Actually they're making me very happy right now. I can't imagine going into the fall elections with a better situation. Dems are split on the war; Dems are full of corruption among themselves, aka Patrick Kennedy, Rep Mollahan, and Rep Jefferson; the economy is great, inflation is still low, interest rates are still low, employment is good, and gov't revenues are growing faster than anytime in the last 25 years meaning Bush may meet his prediction of cutting the deficit in half within 3 years!!!!
America works best when Democrats do the least.
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My question is......with all this good news in Iraq right now and it looking more and more each day that Iraq is turning around....how is Murtha and the other Democrat leaders...like John Kerry.... going to try and re-position themselves later? They have put themselves into the position that IF Iraq is ultimately a success...they ARE SCREWED! They have to hope for failure. It's the only way they can be right on the issue.
Excellent strategic observation! What the hell are they doing?
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"John "War Hero" Kerry, lying filth that he is, would appreciate a creative use for discarding one's ribbons as a symbol of extreme protest---yes?"

The only people who debased War Honors were the Swift Boat Veteran's for Truth.

War Honors mean nothing to me. I learned that from the Swift boat Veterans for truth.
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