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Old 06-28-2006, 01:05 PM
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I hate to pat myself on the back for calling this but why not, I'm a shameless self promoter.

The Democratic party has in the past been a Zionist stronghold. They have convinced many Jewish people that the Democrats was Israels biggest defender. As a result 90% of all Jews voted Democrat. Not anymore. It seems that AIPAC has left the Democrats to the buzzards.

Now you have all those delusional democrats standing around with their pro gay, abortion and other heavy baggage that will never get them elected to anything while the Zionists have moved on.

Now that the Republicans have delivered the wars that Israel has wanted they are in a brain washing campaign now to deliver the Jewish vote to the Neocons. The Republicans have eagerly shown they will kill Muslims without any scruples and of course the conservative domestic policy is just smoke and mirrors they hide behind while nothing of substance ever gets done. Watch in the future as the Zionist Neocon coalition slowly bring over their domestic liberal garbage they so much loved while running the Democratic party.

What can the old democrat liberals do now? Not much unless they want to welcome the old Conservatives from the Republican party who are looking for a new home. Otherwise you Democrats need to switch parties and join your old Liberal masters and let the real Conservatives take over the democratic party and bring it back to prominence.

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By AIPAC Propaganda
Propaganda For The Insipid
By Alice Ollstein
6-28-6


I've been working as teacher's assistant at my temple's religious school for the past four years. I love teaching my second-graders their first Hebrew letters. I love watching my sixth-graders find Israel on a map. But what I love most is the connection my job gives me to Judaism and to Israel, where I hope to travel during college. That is why I jumped at my grandfather's invitation to attend the annual American Israel Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC) policy conference in Washington D.C., where I could join more than 1,000 students and 4,000 adults in discussing the future of Israel. I returned from the conference, however, feeling manipulated, disturbed and disgusted with a great deal of what I witnessed there.

The first thing I noticed about the conference, besides the sheer volume of participants, was the carefully manufactured atmosphere of fear and urgency. The cavernous hall that hosted all our meals and plenary sessions was always filled with dramatic classical music, red lighting and gigantic signs reading "Now Is The Time." That, combined with the montages of terrorism footage projected onto six giant screens, whipped the audience into a "Save Israel" fervor that most found inspiring. By the time we finished our meal, the audience seemed eager to agree to anything that would protect Israel - even war.

The conservative slant of the conference became obvious as I chose "Policy Perspectives: How the Democrats and Republicans View Foreign Affairs" for my first breakout session. The Republican speaker, John Podhoretz of The New York Post, got to have the first word and the last word on almost every question. Podhoretz insulted the Democratic Party, calling it "schizophrenic" and "weak" because of its division on certain issues, and calling Democratic protests about the Iraq war "inappropriate and dangerous."

Democratic speaker Simon Rosenberg, president and founder of the New Democratic Network, responded: "Debate, besides being a sign of health in a party, is important to any democracy." He addressed the "mishandling" of the Iraq war: "The Republican Party only cares about winning the war militarily, which isn't enough. We need to win culturally as well. We need to win the war and win the peace. The Republicans have won the war, but lost the peace."

Podhoretz interrupted, saying that the Democrats should have been "loyal and responsible" by supporting the war, instead of "hostile."

The mealtime plenary sessions taught me the most about the mindset of our country and about the art of rhetoric. Each speaker played upon the audience's deepest fears and greatest hopes. Even after four days, it never ceased to amaze me how easy it was to get a standing ovation out of the crowd. Even platitudes such as "I believe in democracy" or, even better, "I believe in Israel" had the crowds on their feet. How much political integrity and courage does it take to say "I will defend Israel" to thousands of pro-Israel activists? Flattery seemed to work as well, which acting Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert proved by saying, "Thank God we have AIPAC."

Overall, I felt the conference made every issue black and white. You're either for Israel or against it. You're either pro-Democracy or pro-evil regimes, as Israeli candidate for prime minister Benjamin Netanyahu put it, "The world is split between those who oppose terror and those who appease it."

The speakers and "informational" videos left no grey area, no place for dialogue or debate, and certainly no place for dissent. I especially squirmed at the parallels AIPAC drew between Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad and Hitler. To the tune of more dramatic classical music, the six enormous screens flashed back and forth between Hitler giving anti-Jew speeches and Ahmadinejad giving anti-Israel speeches. The famous post-Holocaust mantra "Never Again" popped up several times. Everything was geared toward persuading the audience that another Holocaust is evident ... unless we get them first. Now, I don't dispute that Iran's leader is a Holocaust denier or even that he could attack Israel, but I mind very much being forced to think he's pure evil through clever sound bites and colorful images.

The screens faded to black and the speeches began, and I recognized, beneath the rhetoric, a battle cry. As U.N. Ambassador John Bolton promised "painful and tangible consequences for Iran," and as Vice President Dick Cheney said, "The terrorists have declared war on the civilized world, but we'll declare victory," I noted the scariest division of all: You're either pro-war or pro-Holocaust.

Despite all this madness, I did enjoy some aspects of the conference. First of all, picture the hilarity of thousands of Jews staying in the same hotel. Phrases like "Could you shlep this bag up to my room, please?" or "I'm shvitzing like a pig" were common in the lobby. I also loved meeting students from around the country, regardless of whether I agreed with them politically. The chance to hear all three candidates for Israeli prime minister via satellite was also priceless. But in reflection, after returning from the belly of the conservative beast, I support Israel with all my heart, but I do not support AIPAC.

Alice Ollstein is a senior at Santa Monica High School.

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I like how you choose to ignore the shift in support as proof that your theories are wrong, and instead just pile on the intrigue and create an ad hoc argument to support the current reveleation that the Dems are in fact not controlled by the Jews.
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I like how you choose to ignore the shift in support as proof that your theories are wrong, and instead just pile on the intrigue and create an ad hoc argument to support the current reveleation that the Dems are in fact not controlled by the Jews.
The Jews don't run the Democratic party and I never claimed they did. the Zionist run the Democratic party and the Republican party. Nice try but your attempts to corner me so you could throw out anti-semetic charges failed. You want to give the appearance that Zionist are the same thing as Jewish.

Anyway the Zionist run the Democrats but are shifting the voters they control over to the Republicans. The democrats will grovel and offer them anything to give them their support once again. That won't happen until the Zionists are convinced the power will shift back to the Democrats. They are shameless and not loyal to anyone of anything except their agenda to force the U.S. into doing Israel's bidding.
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