1.THE CONCEPT OF NATIONALISM IS VERY DIFFERENT IN ISLAM COMPARED TO THE WESTERN AND EUROPEAN NATIONS.
IF NATIONALISM IS REGARDED BY THE STANDARD BEARERS OF PATRIOTISM AS THE THAT THERE SHOULD BE LOVE FOR THE NATIVE LAND,THEY SHOULD UNDERSTAND THAT LOVE FOR ONE'S COUNTRY IS INBORN IN EVERY HUMAN BEING'S NATURE.ISLAM HAS NOT PUT AN END TO THESE SENTIMENTS BUT HAS NURTURED THEM.HARZRATH BILAL(R..A)-COMPANION OF THE PROPHET LIVING IN MEDINNA HAD GREAT LOVE FOR HIS HOMELAND MECCA.

2.FREEDOM OF ONE'S COUNTRY AND GLORY
AND IF THE SPIRIT OF NATIONHOOD IS THAT THE COUNTRYSHOULD BE FREED FROM THE GRABBERS AND EFFORTS MADE TO CREATE THE SENTIMENTS OF FREEDOM AND ELEVATION IN THE HEARTS OF THE YOUNG MEN OF THE COUNTRY ,ISLAM EMPHASIS EVEN THIS.ALLAH SAYS


063.008 But honour belongs to Allah and His Messenger, and to the Believers; but the Hypocrites know not.

Al-Qur'an, 063.008 (Al-Munafiqoon [The Hypocrites])

3.3.COLLECTIVE SECURITY OF THE NATIVE LAND
AND IF NATIONHOOD IT IS MEANT THAT THE MUTUAL RELATIONSHIP OF THE PEOPLE OF THE COUNTRY SHOULD BE STRENGTHENED AND THIS STRENGTH SHOULD BE USED FOR COLLECTIVE WELFARE,ISLAM REGARDS THIS AS OBLIGATORY
ALLAH SAYS IN QURAN

003.118 O ye who believe! Take not into your intimacy those outside your ranks: They will not fail to corrupt you. They only desire your ruin: Rank hatred has already appeared from their mouths: What their hearts conceal is far worse. We have made plain to you the Signs, if ye have wisdom.

Al-Qur'an, 003.118 (Aal-E-Imran [The Family of Imran])

BUT NATIONALISM AND PATRIOTISM HAS A LIMIT IN ISLAM
IN ISLAM THE BOUNDARIES OF THE COUNTRY WOULD BE DECIDED IN ACCORDANCE WITH FAITH,WHEREAS FOR THEM IT WOULD BE ON BASIS OF GEOGRAPHICAL DISTRIBUTIONS AND ARTIFICAL FRONTIERS
EVERY SUCH LAND WHERE A MUSLIM LIVES AND UTTERS THAT THERE IS NO GOD BUT ALLAH AND PROPHET MUHAMMAD(PEACE BE UPON HIM)IS THE MESSANGER OF ALLAH IS THE LAND OF ISLAM AND IT IS THE DUTY OF FELLOW MUSLIMS TO TO HAVE REGARD FOR ITS HONOUR AND ALWAYS TO SYMPATHEISE WITH IT AND SHOULD SPARE NO EFFORT FOR ITS BETTERMENT AND DEVELOPMENT.
BUT THE POSITION OF MERE NATIONALISTS IS DIFFERENT, THE CENTRE OF THEIR ATTENTION WOULD BE A SMALL LIMITED AREA IN WHOSE SURROUNDING ARES THEY WOULD NOT BE INTRESTED.


HIGH-HANDEDNESS TO OTHERS
IF THE ESSENCE OF PATRIOTISM IS SO OVERWHELMING A PRIDE OF ONE'S RACE AND DESENT THAT IT RESULTS IN THE USURPATION OF THE RIGHTS OF OTHERS,OPPRESSION ON THEM,INTOLERANCE OF THE PROGRESS OF OTHERS,BURNING DESIRE TO GULP DOWN ALL OTHERS AS IS THE SLOGAN OF AMERICA AND BRITAIN.BUT TRULY SPEAKING,THIS IS THE SLOGAN OF EVERY NATION THAT CLAIMS TO BE SUPERIOR TO OTHERS.
IF THIS IS THE CONCEPT OF NATIONALISM,IT IS AN EXTREMELY MEAN AND DEGENERATE CONCEPT WHICH HAS NO RALATIONSHIP WITH HUMANISM.
IT MEANS THAT ALL NATIONS MUST ATTACK ONE AND ANOTHER ,BE MADE AFTER A WHIM AND BECOME BLOOD THRISTY.THIS KIND OF NATIONALISM IS STRICTLY PROHIBITED IN ISLAM AND HAS NO PLACE IN ISLAM


PATRIOTISM OF ISLAM NEITHER RECOGNISES SUCH CONCEPTS NOR TERMS LIKE ARABI,SHAMI,FIRAUNI.THERE IS NO PLACE FOR SUCH REGIONAL NAMES WHICH ARE USED TO BELITTLE OTHERS.
PROPHET MUHAMMAD HAS SAID
"ALLAH HAS RID YOU OF THE VANITY OF THE IGNORANT.NO THAT THERE IS NO ROOM FOR BEING PROUD OF THE ANCESTORS.ALL THE HUMAN BEINGS ARE FROM ADAM AND ADAM WAS CREATED FROM CLAY.NO AJAMI(IRANI OR NON ARAB)HAS A PREFERENCE OVER AN ARAB,BUT ON THE BASIS OF PIETY"



WHAT A BEAUTY,EXCELLENCE AND A LIKING OF FAIRNESS AND JUSTICE IS PREVADED IN THESE SENTENCES.ALL OF HUMANITY HAS ORIGINATED FROM ADAM SO ALL ARE EQUAL.SUPERIORITY AND PREFERENCE DEPEND ON GOOD ACTIONS ONLY.AS SUCH IT IS THE DUTY OF ALL TO TAKE PRECEDENCE IN VIRTIOUS AND GOOD DEEDS.

It is not. Our love is for our ideology, not the land. Freedom and Democracy...self determination, are far more important than any object or tract of dirt.

THAT is what nationalism means to Americans.

Who gets to interpret that Faith? If everyone agreed, then there would be no sects in Islam, right?

So explain to me how you determine who gets to make the decisions...who gets to interpret the Faith.

America has no one race. We are an amalgam of all races.

I would agree...if Nationalism were what you are describing. But I dont believe it is.

Obviously all are not equal...if they were, Islamists would not be trying to exterminate the Jews.

Again, who gets to define what good actions are? Not all of you agree. So if you are not using democracy to decide who gets to interpret the Faith...then what are you using?

well sadistic i think i have hurt you by this post or say exposed the hallow nationalism of america

not the land?really?99.9% say we love our land

there are no sects in islam just different schools of thinking

whites are the dominant race,you cannot deny that

it is hitler,mussolini and many moderen english people


we are not crusaders to try to do that

certainily invading others nations are not good actions,kindness and justice are examples of good actions

99.9% of who? Where did you get that figure from?

In Enlgish, "land" is often a figure of speech. When they say "land" they are not necessarily talking about the actual dirt.

Really? So Shia and Sunni are not different sects?

Actually I can, because many supposed "whites" are not 100% white. I myself have some native American ancestry, for example, even though on the surface I look white.

The Census figures only track people's dominant genetic backgrounds....the figures do not necessarily mean that all the people of that group are a pure race. When I fill out applications, I mark "white" even though I am technically not 100% white.

Could've fooled me. You sound an awful lot like crusaders from where I am sitting. Pushing Israel into the sea is not exactly a term of endearment.

Maybe. You didnt answer my question though. I have highlighted it for you.

We have two things to interpret Faith; the Holy Qur'an and the Hadith. Nothing more is needed.

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"Without law or compulsion, men would live in harmony"-- Lao-tzu

So why do the Sunni and Shia even exist if everyone agrees on the interpretations?

Am I right in assuming there are more subdivisions of Islam besides just Sunni and Shia?

Theres also the Sufi, they're kind of like mystics. Its just different schools of thought is all.

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"Without law or compulsion, men would live in harmony"-- Lao-tzu

Explain your distinction between "schoold" and "sects" then. How are they not the same thing?

Give me an example of what a sect would be.

oh common man this is so simple you are born in america and u love america someone is born in brazil he loves brazil he wont say i love the freedom of brazil and not the brazil land,lol even a kid can understand this

they are different sects i will not deny the truth but it is more of a political difference than a religious one

common again we saw the huricane katrina pitures and know in what condition the blacks are living in america while the whites are ruling the roost

i dont want to push israel into the sea but belive me i want to push them either to america or europe but ceratinly not in the middle eastern sea

democracy american way no way, america is a bully around the world and good actions just read this

this is a great action considering all as one and equal