Thread: Global warming: Manmade? Does it matter?

Yes it does matter. It affects mass psychology. If the people do not believe that global warming is man-made, then they will not believe that something can be done about it. If they do believe that something can be done about it, we will psychologically feel the need to unite ourselves as a species to combat the enemy. It does not matter if this enemy of man-made global warming is real, fake, or full of half-truths (which it is). What matters is that the people believe it.

If the people believe it, we will be likely accept uniting together under a true, one world totalitarian government in The New World Order to utilise the government to combat global warming.

It is happening all around us as we speak. The engineered collapse of the United States economy (a direct result of the Federal Reserve's policies) and loss of sovereignty is happening right now. When we are standing in soup lines as unemployment reaches or even surpasses Great Depression levels in the next few years, we will accept the move towards a North American Union with the Amero replacing the worthless hyperinflated Dollar. That is the next step.

See The Report from Iron Mountain, authored by Council on Foreign Relations members. (If you don't know, the Council on Foreign Relations' hidden goal is realizing a one world government).

Originally Posted by Dr. Righteous

Yes it does matter. It affects mass psychology. If the people do not believe that global warming is man-made, then they will not believe that something can be done about it. If they do believe that something can be done about it, we will psychologically feel the need to unite ourselves as a species to combat the enemy. It does not matter if this enemy of man-made global warming is real, fake, or full of half-truths (which it is). What matters is that the people believe it.

If the people believe it, we will be likely accept uniting together under a true, one world totalitarian government in The New World Order to utilise the government to combat global warming.

It is happening all around us as we speak. The engineered collapse of the United States economy (a direct result of the Federal Reserve's policies) and loss of sovereignty is happening right now. When we are standing in soup lines as unemployment reaches or even surpasses Great Depression levels in the next few years, we will accept the move towards a North American Union with the Amero replacing the worthless hyperinflated Dollar. That is the next step.

See The Report from Iron Mountain, authored by Council on Foreign Relations members. (If you don't know, the Council on Foreign Relations' hidden goal is realizing a one world government).

I believe there is more than enough evidence to show that humans definitely played a big role in climate change. The problem is that there isn't anything we can do to stop it at this point. However we CAN do what needs to be done to slow down the process.

Originally Posted by Dr. Righteous

Yes it does matter. It affects mass psychology. If the people do not believe that global warming is man-made, then they will not believe that something can be done about it. If they do believe that something can be done about it, we will psychologically feel the need to unite ourselves as a species to combat the enemy. It does not matter if this enemy of man-made global warming is real, fake, or full of half-truths (which it is). What matters is that the people believe it.

If the people believe it, we will be likely accept uniting together under a true, one world totalitarian government in The New World Order to utilise the government to combat global warming.

It is happening all around us as we speak. The engineered collapse of the United States economy (a direct result of the Federal Reserve's policies) and loss of sovereignty is happening right now. When we are standing in soup lines as unemployment reaches or even surpasses Great Depression levels in the next few years, we will accept the move towards a North American Union with the Amero replacing the worthless hyperinflated Dollar. That is the next step.

See The Report from Iron Mountain, authored by Council on Foreign Relations members. (If you don't know, the Council on Foreign Relations' hidden goal is realizing a one world government).

Why One World Government? I can definitely see a North American Union with the hyper rich and the major Corporations ensuring they have their fingers on the reins of power but I don't see how they benefit from a New World Order. There is no reason to invent a conspiracy when there are perfectly explainable social and economic forces present that are not being reported on.

As for the breadlines, it won't happen. Luckily the economic bust will coincide with the retirement of the baby boomers so enough people will be able to get jobs as nursing home attendants or the equivalent so that it will just be a severe recession. What is more worrying will be the disappearance of many medium value jobs leaving the job market with some high value / high education jobs, some creative / niche jobs with medium value and a lot of McJobs with low value and pay. America will start to look like something out of South America or a Marxist textbook.

I am a believer in Anthropogenic Global Warming but I have come to the cynical conclusion that not nearly enough effort will be put into combatting it until the situation gets a lot worse and the cost of trying to fix the problem becomes a lot higher. If Dr Righteous is correct I'll have one less thing to worry about so it would be nice if that were so, but closing my eyes doesn't make a problem go away.

Originally Posted by abentwookie

I believe there is more than enough evidence to show that humans definitely played a big role in climate change. The problem is that there isn't anything we can do to stop it at this point. However we CAN do what needs to be done to slow down the process.

Any "evidence" you speak of is not good enough for the scientific community, because there is no consensus that global warming is man-made.

Originally Posted by skeptic-f

Why One World Government? I can definitely see a North American Union with the hyper rich and the major Corporations ensuring they have their fingers on the reins of power but I don't see how they benefit from a New World Order. There is no reason to invent a conspiracy when there are perfectly explainable social and economic forces present that are not being reported on.

They'd benefit from a one world government because the elite bankers would be able to exploit the unit of currency, through the hidden tax of inflation, on a world-wide scale...just as they have done in America with the Federal Reserve they created. The low class, which would eventually comprise 99% of earth's population, would become slaves to the elite. Their labor would be exploited infinitely and forever, without them even realizing it. It is the perfect plan. There is ample evidence to prove that such a world government is being planned, I have not "invented" anything. Just because you are in denial of it does not mean that it is not happening. The North American Union's fiat currency, the Amero, will eventually be hyperinflated just as the dollar is about to be. A singular world government will unite the North American Union, the European Union, the African Union, and the Asian Union under one government and a singular fiat world currency, the Bancor, will be manufactured by the IMF/World Bank to replace all regional continnental currencies. Vladimir Putin speaks of this dream openly.

Originally Posted by skeptic-f

As for the breadlines, it won't happen. Luckily the economic bust will coincide with the retirement of the baby boomers so enough people will be able to get jobs as nursing home attendants or the equivalent so that it will just be a severe recession. What is more worrying will be the disappearance of many medium value jobs leaving the job market with some high value / high education jobs, some creative / niche jobs with medium value and a lot of McJobs with low value and pay. America will start to look like something out of South America or a Marxist textbook.

It may not happen exactly that way, but you are entirely correct that the U.S. will be reduced to the equivalent of a third world country. A strong nation, economically and militarily, is not a very good candidate for surrendering its sovereigntly to a world government, correct?

Originally Posted by skeptic-f

I am a believer in Anthropogenic Global Warming but I have come to the cynical conclusion that not nearly enough effort will be put into combatting it until the situation gets a lot worse and the cost of trying to fix the problem becomes a lot higher. If Dr Righteous is correct I'll have one less thing to worry about so it would be nice if that were so, but closing my eyes doesn't make a problem go away.

There is no scientific consensus that global warming is man-made, and an ample amount of evidence to show that Anthropogenic global warming was invented by the Council on Foreign Relations. Rest assured, that global warming is not the real threat to the human race. World government is, however. You have to remember that the situation WILL get a lot worse, because they WANT the cost of fixing the problem to get a lot higher.

Climate change and Global Warming are totally different things.

Climate change has happened for varying reasons all through history so yes while we are heading into warmer cycle than we have been in for at least 400 years climate change is not a man made occurence, we may effect it but we do not cause it. If we implemented all the environemental strategies that scientists want the Earth would still see the increase in hot warm and extreme weather than if we do nothing.

Global warming on the other hand is different because you are asking on this point whether humans are effecting the weather in certain regions of the world, so say for instance glaciers which have been around for hundreds of years melting, and on that point you are correct, we have helped in various ways to the Global warming phenomena.

It is a proven fact the the "man caused global warming" conspiracy is a scam to enrich the likes of AlGore and his criminal pals with the trillions of dollars that they will extort from the poor.

In the 1970's it was "man caused global cooling". Were there more or less smoke-stack industries in the 1970's or today?

Global warming is man made and the only people who would disagree would be the fossil fuel industry but they know they are lying and the tea tards that are simply too stupid to understand the simple science and reality.

The sky is falling! The Earth is warming!

There is a solution to global warming. Nukes, Solar, Wind, Natural Gas, Hydrogen and Hydro.

T Boone Pickens a true conservative and oil man would agree.

Again Pickens is a Conservative not a CONservative.

Here is his plan. http://www.pickensplan.com/theplan/

The Pickens Plan.

There are several pillars to the Pickens Plan:

* Create millions of new jobs by building out the capacity to generate up to 22 percent of our electricity from wind. And adding to that with additional solar generation capacity;
* Building a 21st century backbone electrical transmission grid;
* Providing incentives for homeowners and the owners of commercial buildings to upgrade their insulation and other energy saving options; and
* Using America's natural gas to replace imported oil as a transportation fuel in addition to its other uses in power generation, chemicals, etc.

Sounds like what Obama wants.

New jobs from renewable energy and conservation.

Any discussion of alternatives should begin with the 2007 Department of Energy study showing that building out our wind capacity in the Great Plains - from northern Texas to the Canadian border - would produce 138,000 new jobs in the first year, and more than 3.4 million new jobs over a ten-year period, while also producing as much as 20 percent of our needed electricity.

Building out solar energy in the Southwest from western Texas to California would add to the boom of new jobs and provide more of our growing electrical needs - doing so through economically viable, clean, renewable sources.

To move that electricity from where it is being produced to where it is needed will require an upgrade to our national electric grid. A 21st century transmission grid which will, as technology continues to develop, deliver power where it is needed, when it is needed, in the direction that it is needed, will be the modern equivalent of building the Interstate Highway System in the 1950's.

Beyond that, tremendous improvements in electricity use can be made by creating incentives for owners of homes and commercial buildings to retrofit their spaces with proper insulation. Studies show that a significant upgrading of insulation would save the equivalent of one million barrels of oil per day in energy by cutting down on both air conditioning costs in warm weather and heating costs in winter.