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Old 08-09-2006, 12:52 PM
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Every time we turn around anymore people who would normally be called conservative or even white supremacists are being tagged "liberals" or "leftists." Even I am the recipient of some of this nonsense.

Me?

I am about as liberal as David Duke. I am to the right of Hitler.

Heck, I am offended with the names. It's freaky!

Has anyone figured out this weird slant on liberalism lately?
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Hitler was a socialist.

The only real difference between Hitler and any other commie was that Hitler was also a racist. There are lots of left-wing racists nowadays.
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The right has turned liberal bashing into a sport. Its a name they use to tag on people who have different opinions.
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The right has turned liberal bashing into a sport. Its a name they use to tag on people who have different opinions.
It's not even "the right" that's doing it, it's mainly a small group within the Republican Party. Keep in mind that this was a campaign tactic brought into the mainstream by Ken Mehlman and Karl Rove. At the moment, it's becoming increasingly counter-productive, and if it continues it'll certainly backfire very shortly.

This is one of the main reasons why I've been fighting for change within the Republican Party, 'cause the Neo-Cons (who still represent much of the power structure) are stuck on stupid, and they're going to do some serious damage to the party if they're allowed to continue with their bald-faced shennanigans.

I can tell you one thing for sure, there's a resurgence of "true" conservatism, however the new mindset involves the prioritization of "real" issues (of which there are many), as distinct from the idiotic social issues like gay marriage and flag-burning. Everyone (or "almost" everyone ) recognizes how much damage the conjunction and misprioritization of these unrelated issues has done to the party's political ability vis-a-vis the "moderate" voters (who still determine elections, for the most part), and I have no doubt we'll see the reality of that concept in the upcoming election.
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The main purpose of language is labeling. A Dog is a "Dog". That Window is called a "Window". The monitor you are looking through is called a "Monitor".

Are we suppose to communicate through grunts and gestures?
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The right has turned liberal bashing into a sport. Its a name they use to tag on people who have different opinions.
Wrong. The hypocrite lefties are actually the biggest bigots of them all, they just intermingle their insults with platitudes and plongitudes. Basically they dress their (*)(*)(*)(*) in suites to make them look better. But to save time, and not be a hypocrite like the Democrats, i'll just come out and say it. Cut through the unnecessary B.S. You'd think I'd be appreciated for saving you guys some reading time but nooooooo.

I will not sink to your level and be a hypocrite, my religion forbids it.
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The right has turned liberal bashing into a sport. Its a name they use to tag on people who have different opinions.
Correction. Unacceptable opinions. Catastrophic opinions. Criminally insane opinions. You know --- liberal. As in, the ones who want to be called "progressive," since "liberal" is the dirty word which fits them so well.
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The right has turned liberal bashing into a sport. Its a name they use to tag on people who have different opinions.
It's not even "the right" that's doing it, it's mainly a small group within the Republican Party. Keep in mind that this was a campaign tactic brought into the mainstream by Ken Mehlman and Karl Rove. At the moment, it's becoming increasingly counter-productive, and if it continues it'll certainly backfire very shortly.

This is one of the main reasons why I've been fighting for change within the Republican Party, 'cause the Neo-Cons (who still represent much of the power structure) are stuck on stupid, and they're going to do some serious damage to the party if they're allowed to continue with their bald-faced shennanigans.

I can tell you one thing for sure, there's a resurgence of "true" conservatism, however the new mindset involves the prioritization of "real" issues (of which there are many), as distinct from the idiotic social issues like gay marriage and flag-burning. Everyone (or "almost" everyone ) recognizes how much damage the conjunction and misprioritization of these unrelated issues has done to the party's political ability vis-a-vis the "moderate" voters (who still determine elections, for the most part), and I have no doubt we'll see the reality of that concept in the upcoming election.
I see...

So what we have from you non is calling people...

Neo-Con = Good

Loony Liberal = Bad

And you wonder why people call you out on being a RINO?

ROTFLMAO!!!!!

Could you be more transparent?

I don't think so.

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The right has turned liberal bashing into a sport. Its a name they use to tag on people who have different opinions.
It's not even "the right" that's doing it, it's mainly a small group within the Republican Party. Keep in mind that this was a campaign tactic brought into the mainstream by Ken Mehlman and Karl Rove. At the moment, it's becoming increasingly counter-productive, and if it continues it'll certainly backfire very shortly.

This is one of the main reasons why I've been fighting for change within the Republican Party, 'cause the Neo-Cons (who still represent much of the power structure) are stuck on stupid, and they're going to do some serious damage to the party if they're allowed to continue with their bald-faced shennanigans.

I can tell you one thing for sure, there's a resurgence of "true" conservatism, however the new mindset involves the prioritization of "real" issues (of which there are many), as distinct from the idiotic social issues like gay marriage and flag-burning. Everyone (or "almost" everyone ) recognizes how much damage the conjunction and misprioritization of these unrelated issues has done to the party's political ability vis-a-vis the "moderate" voters (who still determine elections, for the most part), and I have no doubt we'll see the reality of that concept in the upcoming election.
I see...

So what we have from you non is calling people...

Neo-Con = Good

Loony Liberal = Bad

And you wonder why people call you out on being a RINO?

ROTFLMAO!!!!!

Could you be more transparent?

I don't think so.

Regards,
Gaar
See? Are you listening to what you just said? 'Cause you've just made a strategic mistake, politically speaking. If what you say is true and you think I'm a "moderate", then you've just alienated me politically, by trying to isolate me and "pigeonhole" me as a RINO. Instead, you should be embracing me, 'cause I might be one of those "swing voters" that will be needed to win the election.

What I'm telling you Gaar, is your viewpoint no longer holds the majority in the party. Even now as we speak, that reailty is stone cold fact. There is no doubt in anyone's mind that Bushie and his people have screwed us in many MANY ways, and the real question is how to recover from that. I fully believe, that what you're seeing right now, in terms of the changes in Republican behavior (mostly the shifts in the Senate and in the House), is more than just election-year politicking, it's really a mix between that and a genuine need to achieve change.

The people in the party that don't want to talk about this, their own silence is going to be the end of them. That's how politics works. The real question is whether and how much the voters in general will buy into the "new rhetoric". It's going to take some very eloquent speakers to communicate that, but whoever latches on to this thing, in that regard, could launch themselves quite a nice political career. I suspect, that Giuliani may be the first one to "get" this concept and act on it, at least at the national level - we'll see. It would be very nice if he could articulate a different foreign policy than McCain, and really give the voters a choice this time around.
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