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Old 08-13-2006, 09:16 PM
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Working at the Mass state house with my Progressive Representative, among whom most Democrats are rather moderate. I got into some heated discussians with the aide, saying that I am slightly racist. Here were some views of mine.

1. If the cops in my town want to go catch illegal immigrants, all they have to do is go downtown, which is nothing but hispanics and brazilians.

2. If I had a choice between a white immigrant and a black/hispanic immigrant, I would choose the white immigrant.

3. I'm afraid of the rising tide of hispanics because they don't seem to want to assimilate as much of previous rounds of immigrants.

4. Its ok to have the FBI/CIA do racial profiling of muslims more than others because terrorists tend to be muslims.

5. Its ok for cops to put a higher on emphasis on minority neighborhoods, as thats where the most crime is.

6. Blacks are poor because they have a poor work ethic.

7. I prefer Asian immigrants to South American immigrants.

8. Immigrants and illegal immigrants have no constitutional rights.

9. If I see a black man at 2AM in the city, I will be more suspicious of him that that of a white/asian man.

10. I don't want to deal with people who only speak spanish for business.

11. English should be the official language.

12. The government should not print anything with additional spanish text.

So what do you think? I'll add others if I think of any.
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[A culturalist thinks their culture is superior to another's culture.

You sound like a culturalist. I am a culturalist.
Is that the same as "NATIONALIST"?
Not really, because Democrats are part of the "NATION" I live in. If they were rounded up and enslaved for a time to pay for their sins and assault on civilization, I may be a Nationalist.
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Racist.
I suppose that it could be "racist" but if someone said they would choose the black/hispanic immigrant wouldn't that also be "racist"? and if not would that not be hypacritocal?
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Racist.
I suppose that it could be "racist" but if someone said they would choose the black/hispanic immigrant wouldn't that also be "racist"? and if not would that not be hypacritocal?


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2. If I had a choice between a white immigrant and a black/hispanic immigrant, I would choose the white immigrant.
Yes, that is a racist statement.

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3. I'm afraid of the rising tide of hispanics because they don't seem to want to assimilate as much of previous rounds of immigrants.
Yes that is a racist statement. Because you based it on race (ie., "Hispanics") instead of nationality or culture (ie., "Mexicans")

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6. Blacks are poor because they have a poor work ethic.
Yes, that is a racist statement. You are trying to apply a poor work ethic to all blacks, when that statement is not true of all black people. American or otherwise (yes, there are black people that are not American).

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A racist is someone who applies attributes (positive or negative) to an entire race of people. If you believe the statements your posted, yes, you are a racist.
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I suppose that it could be "racist" but if someone said they would choose the black/hispanic immigrant wouldn't that also be "racist"?
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and if not would that not be hypacritocal?
It is only hypocrisy if they deny being a racist.

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Explain how any of these things he posted apply to neo-con ideology.

Michelle Malkin and Condoleeza rice are both neo-cons. Neither is white and neither is racist.
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Now, here's my question. I suppose those are mostly racist statements.

The question I have is this: Are all racist statements imorall? Can there ever be a racist statement/or action that is not imorall?

Plus, now that I think of it more, I don't think they're actually racist. They're more culturalist. I'm judging the culture of the race, not the race itself? I don't think blacks are bad, but I think black culture is bad. Would that be a racist statement.
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Your post is a combination of flagrant racism, generalizations, and stances that I wouldn't consider racist.

Who am I to say if it's moral or not? I would consider #2 immoral but when it gets to racial profiling it would difficult to answer because I can understand why you think that way.

Well what would you define as black culture? If you say rap that's wrong. I think you're just misinformed for the most part. That's making a huge generalization as well.
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The question I have is this: Are all racist statements imorall?
They are IMO. But morality is relative.

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Plus, now that I think of it more, I don't think they're actually racist. They're more culturalist.
They are racist because you referenced race specifically. I already gave you an example.

Speaking about blacks or hispanics is speaking about a race.

Speaking about Mexicans or Japanese is speaking about a culture.

If what you really mean is Mexican, then dont say "Hispanic". That seems obvious to me.

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I don't think blacks are bad, but I think black culture is bad.
What exactly is black culture? There are blacks in Africa who have dramatically different cultures from black Americans.
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The question I have is this: Are all racist statements imorall? Can there ever be a racist statement/or action that is not imorall?
In terms of American society today, yes all racist statements are immoral.

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Plus, now that I think of it more, I don't think they're actually racist. They're more culturalist. I'm judging the culture of the race, not the race itself? I don't think blacks are bad, but I think black culture is bad. Would that be a racist statement.
No your a racist. Your statment about Mexican was encommpasing latinos as whole, now if you said Mexican cultures then I would agree with you. You also say all blacks are lazy; your statement implies that you thing anyone with that skintone is automatically lazy
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