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This does not restrict liberty in that regard. No one should have a special class and title that grants them special status over others, either real or perceived.
How.... Communist.
No, it's not. If you'll actually read the first link you'll understand the issue.

I do need to be clearer though - this is not about doing away with classes - it's about doing away with the idea of superior status based on title - that somebody should have a SPECIAL STATUS PROTECTED BY THE FORCE OF GOVERNMENT - which would obviously lead to an infringement of EQUAL INALIENABLE RIGHTS.
A lawyer has the right to practice law because he/she has proven that he/she knows the law by doing lots of schooling and earning the degree title Doctor of Jurisprudence and then passing the Bar Exam. A doctor has the right to practice medicine because he/she has proven that he/she knows medicine by doing lots of schooling and earning the degree Doctor of Medicine and passing the U. S. Medical Licensing Exam. Degree titles are not titles of nobility! Get that through your thick skull!
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You are utterly ignorant!
I know you are, but what am I? Sorry...I just could not resist that.

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Do you really expect me to believe that out of 435 Represntatives and 100 Senators, only 1 would give a rip about constitutionality and the other 534 could care less?
Yes, they do care less about the Original Intent of the Constitution. Their actions completely and irrevocably prove that. Most don't even understand Original Intent. Maybe you do though. I guess you must since I'm ignorant and you're so knowledgeable. Why don't you explain what the Original Intent of the Constitution was, why no laws or amendments were ever supposed to conflict with Original Intent, and why the Constitution was instuted to protect individual rights in accordance with Natural Law.
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the amendment was never passed
I realize that is in dispute and that is not part of my argument. I'm not arguing that it did pass and should be acknowledged, I'm just arguing that it would be a good idea.
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NO THANKS ON YOUR DICTATORSHIP OF THE PROLETARIT!!!
LOL. It would be hard to characterize my form of government as a dictatorship since, if I had my way, I would repeal the income tax and all internal taxes, abolish the central bank and allow free market currency, repeal all prohibition laws and victimless crime laws, and make all government officials subject to impeachment with a mandatory sentence of life in prison if they violate their oaths of office or commit any crime.

Take a sedative and calm down.
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The amendment was never passed;
You should also note that the amendment only failed BY ONE STATE HOUSE. That's as close as you can possibly get without actually passing. So a SUPER MAJORITY in Congress supported it and over TWO THIRDS of state legislatures supported it. If it's such an insane, crazy idea as you purport, why the broad support for it?
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What should be ruled on is the law and the evidence. If this doesn't happen, IT'S A BIG DEAL.
Well, yes. But that's why we have an appeals process.

Oh, wait, I forgot; they're all corrupt, too.

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Kid, you have no real world experience. Your biggest crisis up to this point has probably been your graduation exam. You crack me up.
You have no idea how much this damages your credibility, do you?

[quoteIf the majority of office holders are lawyers - as has always been the case in the country, how do you perceive they'll ever cut down on the complexity of the legal system, since they've always profited from it?[/quote]

Perhaps. But how does that justify taking away a voters' chosen representative? And how does having a Congress full of people who are entirely ignorant of the law improve matters?

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But it does prove judicial immunity should be done away with.
No it doesn't.

Judicial immunity is not absolute. A judge that breaks the law can be impeached, and if the offense is criminal they can be tried and thrown in jail.

All judicial immunity does is free a judge to consider the facts of the case, without fear that he'll face a lawsuit from an angry plaintiff. Allowing judges to be routinely sued for their decisions is a recipe for injustice. It would tie the legal system in knots and make judges cater to the most obnoxious participants.

Show me specific cases of *abuse* that went unpunished and I'll support reforms. But judicial immunity is what helps insulate judges from extralegal influences, just like tenure is what protects academic freedom in universities.

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Bogus argument again, pup. Carpenters and fisherman don't have the power to destroy the lives of innocent people and easily get away with it if they subvert the law.
That doesn't make my argument bogus. I agree that judges should be held to a higher standard than carpenters. And they are. I was simply noting that you are making assertions you have not backed up with evidence. You treat anecdotes as evidence of systemwide corruption -- even though you admit you cannot prove systemwide corruption.
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even though you admit you cannot prove systemwide corruption.
Here you go again with your mischaracterizations... I admitted no such thing. You have GOT to take a reading comprehensions class...either that or an honesty class.

What I said was that I could prove it BUT IT WOULD TAKE HOURS UPON HOURS - time that I'm not willing to spend just to placate you.

The Judicial Accountability Initiative law is on the ballot in South Dakota in November. People are waking up to this issue, whether you like it or not. You can choose to remain asleep. Not like we could count on you, or any moderate, in a fight anyway...
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The amendment was never passed;
You should also note that the amendment only failed BY ONE STATE HOUSE. That's as close as you can possibly get without actually passing. So a SUPER MAJORITY in Congress supported it and over TWO THIRDS of state legislatures supported it. If it's such an insane, crazy idea as you purport, why the broad support for it?
Well, EVEN THOUGH IT ONLY FAILED BY ONE STATE HOUSE, IT STILL FAILED!!! Moreover, BEING A LAWYER IS STILL NOT AT ALL THE SAME THING AS HOLDING A TITLE OF NOBILITY!!!
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NO THANKS ON YOUR DICTATORSHIP OF THE PROLETARIT!!!
LOL. It would be hard to characterize my form of government as a dictatorship since, if I had my way, I would repeal the income tax and all internal taxes, abolish the central bank and allow free market currency, repeal all prohibition laws and victimless crime laws, and make all government officials subject to impeachment with a mandatory sentence of life in prison if they violate their oaths of office or commit any crime.

Take a sedative and calm down.
It is very easy to characterize your form of government as a dictatorship BECAUSE, BY YOUR OWN ADMISSION, YOU WOULD SIMPLY IMPERIOUSLY ISSUE ANY DECREE YOU (*)(*)(*)(*) WELL PLEASE WITHOUT PUTTING THINGS TO A VOTE!!! By the way, SHALL WE SHARPEN UP THE GUILLOTINE FOR YOU SO YOU CAN START ELIMINATING ALL THOSE ON YOUR ENEMIES LIST???
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NO THANKS ON YOUR DICTATORSHIP OF THE PROLETARIT!!!
LOL. It would be hard to characterize my form of government as a dictatorship since, if I had my way, I would repeal the income tax and all internal taxes, abolish the central bank and allow free market currency, repeal all prohibition laws and victimless crime laws, and make all government officials subject to impeachment with a mandatory sentence of life in prison if they violate their oaths of office or commit any crime. (*Except my guys, they were just duped by somebody else.*)

Take a sedative and calm down.
It is very easy to characterize your form of government as a dictatorship BECAUSE, BY YOUR OWN ADMISSION, YOU WOULD SIMPLY IMPERIOUSLY ISSUE ANY DECREE YOU (*)(*)(*)(*) WELL PLEASE WITHOUT PUTTING THINGS TO A VOTE!!! By the way, SHALL WE SHARPEN UP THE GUILLOTINE FOR YOU SO YOU CAN START ELIMINATING ALL THOSE ON YOUR ENEMIES LIST???
Time is money, herr professor. For widespread exterminations, put them into planes with al Qaeda pilots, and half the fuel to get them to Europe. Boeing thanks you for the patronage. Think of all those old shaky planes the airlines can write off for tax reasons. Win-win!
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