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Old 10-27-2006, 09:30 AM
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Guns are only tools that are wrongfully used IMO to excuse the actions of the individuals who use them by people like Rosie O'Donnell...

Besides if there where no guns it would be swords..or daggers..or axes..or clubs..or rocks...
Violence didn't suddenly arrive because of the relatively recent development of the gun.

Guns are not bad ..the people who use them to commit bad acts are bad. No gun has ever animated itelf and gone on a killing spree.
By your logic I can think of no reason why we should not be allowed to buy .50 caliber machine guns and stinger missiles.

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Stinger missles are not bad ..the people who use them to commit bad acts are bad. No stinger missile has ever animated itself and gone on a killing spree..
Perhaps there is a flaw in your logic? And be careful when you try to correct it or you might just make an argument against all guns... so be thoughtful in your deliberations.

Ixtellor

P.S. I need a howitzer to protect my border ranch from illegals... thoughts?
Ixy, I believe EVERY border farmer needs howitzers. And air-cooled Gattling grenade-launchers. And at least a dozen kickass fifties with night scopes to bag any belly-crawlers. Light up their life. Use napalm.

Trespassing on private property is illegal. The property owners have the absolute right to varmint-snipe and kill the worst of the pests, as a lesson to the others. Keep it simple, they're peasants. Violence works.

Trespass and you die. Have a very nice day. My regards to that moron Vincente Fox, if you see him. Say, can you take him a little gift-box I've been holding for the occasion?

Trespass with drugs and you die faster. Mushroom clouds over cocaine factories is Efficient Weaponry. Let's get that part locked in. Mexican drug smuggling is ruining countless American lives, and lemme tell ya, Vincente you scumbag, you don't even want me on the controls of a battery of Hellfire missiles, during a DEA sweep of property owned by one of your close political friends in a cartel. No, padron, you do not.

Sniveling pukes screaming no borders, no sovreignity, release the druggies. I say hang them, to clean out the cell space. Any Mexican national caught crossing the U.S. border with drugs on their person should be summarily executed without trial or appeal on that spot.

Got that message? If not, shall we send the world's acknowledged experts at kicking Mexico's ass---the United States Marines? HoooooYAH, senor.

The reason we are stalled in the War on Drugs is because our left hasn't got the will to fight. They're most likely also that drug dealer's clients, but that's only partly being snarky.

Bear with me, Sombrero Boy. I saw El Mariachi and the two follow-ups. I know there is vibrant young talent in your country. I never said there wasn't. The Chicanos have given America much over these centuries, but lately all you give us is grief by breaking our laws, left and right.

You, scumbag of a president, deserve a jail cell and your government deserves a coup d'etat, and if the Mexican people were truly smart, they'd do it themselves and save the U.S. the trouble. Clean house and get the drug cartels out of your government.

Money would become available to average Mexicans if your government were not so corrupt. Do not bring yourselves here uninvited. Immigration by legal means is how you make true friends here. That and speak our language, accent be (*)(*)(*)(*)ed.
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Old 10-27-2006, 09:42 AM
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I would vehemetly protest if I was told to surrender my 9mm. I think gun laws should be more strict. It should be harder to obtain a hand gun. There should be SEVERE punishment for NOT adhering to gun laws. For having an unregistered handgun, they should get at LEAST 2 years.

I dont think we're being smart enough about the problem.
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Old 10-27-2006, 09:47 AM
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Reading the above, I think I'll go watch some Terminator films and get tuned for a night's exchange with our libs.

Please remember: someone has to step forward and say what's wrong---and be willing to back it by joining a group, a posse, an army, whatever it takes to affect that change. In the border cases it's so volatile (and stale) that now the option of violence-to-shake-status-quo now becomes even somewhat feasible in the minds of some people.

Mexico won't go to war with us. They'll become states with us.

If it's legal, who can deny them, the money their migrants have made here---on legal visas? But illegal money is still crime money, I don't care what the motives are. It's crime money that runs Mexcico and runs Vincente Fox. We are stalled in the war on drugs because of people who lack the will to fight; they're sympatico with all the wrong causes.
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Old 10-27-2006, 09:52 AM
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I would vehemetly protest if I was told to surrender my 9mm. I think gun laws should be more strict. It should be harder to obtain a hand gun. There should be SEVERE punishment for NOT adhering to gun laws. For having an unregistered handgun, they should get at LEAST 2 years.

I dont think we're being smart enough about the problem.
I repeat: why let your potential enemy know anything about your defensive posture? Why register the weapon at all?

Criminals will always get weapons. They will merely import them. Sig-Sauer welcomes your patronage. (Their nine beats most nines any day, yes?)
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Why register the weapon at all?
Because the state tells us to, and we should always do as the state says because they are the best and have our best interest at heart and would never ever do anything to infringe upon our liberty or natural rights!
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The right to bear arms is fundamental to preserving any semblance of a liberal republic. It is not only a right but a check and balance. It is the final check and balance on government. Without weapons, people are subjects. Withour private property, rights are privelages.

It never ceases to amaze me how much people will surrender for a little comfort.
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I am still waiting for someone to explain why we can NOT have .50 machine guns and rocket launchers.
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Guns are only tools that are wrongfully used IMO to excuse the actions of the individuals who use them by people like Rosie O'Donnell...

Besides if there where no guns it would be swords..or daggers..or axes..or clubs..or rocks...
Violence didn't suddenly arrive because of the relatively recent development of the gun.

Guns are not bad ..the people who use them to commit bad acts are bad. No gun has ever animated itelf and gone on a killing spree.
By your logic I can think of no reason why we should not be allowed to buy .50 caliber machine guns and stinger missiles.

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Stinger missles are not bad ..the people who use them to commit bad acts are bad. No stinger missile has ever animated itself and gone on a killing spree..
Perhaps there is a flaw in your logic? And be careful when you try to correct it or you might just make an argument against all guns... so be thoughtful in your deliberations.

Ixtellor

P.S. I need a howitzer to protect my border ranch from illegals... thoughts?
Ixy, I believe EVERY border farmer needs howitzers. And air-cooled Gattling grenade-launchers. And at least a dozen kickass fifties with night scopes to bag any belly-crawlers. Light up their life. Use napalm.

Trespassing on private property is illegal. The property owners have the absolute right to varmint-snipe and kill the worst of the pests, as a lesson to the others. Keep it simple, they're peasants. Violence works.

Trespass and you die. Have a very nice day. My regards to that moron Vincente Fox, if you see him. Say, can you take him a little gift-box I've been holding for the occasion?

Trespass with drugs and you die faster. Mushroom clouds over cocaine factories is Efficient Weaponry. Let's get that part locked in. Mexican drug smuggling is ruining countless American lives, and lemme tell ya, Vincente you scumbag, you don't even want me on the controls of a battery of Hellfire missiles, during a DEA sweep of property owned by one of your close political friends in a cartel. No, padron, you do not.

Sniveling pukes screaming no borders, no sovreignity, release the druggies. I say hang them, to clean out the cell space. Any Mexican national caught crossing the U.S. border with drugs on their person should be summarily executed without trial or appeal on that spot.

Got that message? If not, shall we send the world's acknowledged experts at kicking Mexico's ass---the United States Marines? HoooooYAH, senor.

The reason we are stalled in the War on Drugs is because our left hasn't got the will to fight. They're most likely also that drug dealer's clients, but that's only partly being snarky.

Bear with me, Sombrero Boy. I saw El Mariachi and the two follow-ups. I know there is vibrant young talent in your country. I never said there wasn't. The Chicanos have given America much over these centuries, but lately all you give us is grief by breaking our laws, left and right.

You, scumbag of a president, deserve a jail cell and your government deserves a coup d'etat, and if the Mexican people were truly smart, they'd do it themselves and save the U.S. the trouble. Clean house and get the drug cartels out of your government.

Money would become available to average Mexicans if your government were not so corrupt. Do not bring yourselves here uninvited. Immigration by legal means is how you make true friends here. That and speak our language, accent be (*)(*)(*)(*)ed.
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Guns are only tools that are wrongfully used IMO to excuse the actions of the individuals who use them by people like Rosie O'Donnell...

Besides if there where no guns it would be swords..or daggers..or axes..or clubs..or rocks...
Violence didn't suddenly arrive because of the relatively recent development of the gun.

Guns are not bad ..the people who use them to commit bad acts are bad. No gun has ever animated itelf and gone on a killing spree.
By your logic I can think of no reason why we should not be allowed to buy .50 caliber machine guns and stinger missiles.

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Stinger missles are not bad ..the people who use them to commit bad acts are bad. No stinger missile has ever animated itself and gone on a killing spree..
Perhaps there is a flaw in your logic? And be careful when you try to correct it or you might just make an argument against all guns... so be thoughtful in your deliberations.

Ixtellor

P.S. I need a howitzer to protect my border ranch from illegals... thoughts?
Ixy, I believe EVERY border farmer needs howitzers. And air-cooled Gattling grenade-launchers. And at least a dozen kickass fifties with night scopes to bag any belly-crawlers. Light up their life. Use napalm.

Trespassing on private property is illegal. The property owners have the absolute right to varmint-snipe and kill the worst of the pests, as a lesson to the others. Keep it simple, they're peasants. Violence works.

Trespass and you die. Have a very nice day. My regards to that moron Vincente Fox, if you see him. Say, can you take him a little gift-box I've been holding for the occasion?

Trespass with drugs and you die faster. Mushroom clouds over cocaine factories is Efficient Weaponry. Let's get that part locked in. Mexican drug smuggling is ruining countless American lives, and lemme tell ya, Vincente you scumbag, you don't even want me on the controls of a battery of Hellfire missiles, during a DEA sweep of property owned by one of your close political friends in a cartel. No, padron, you do not.

Sniveling pukes screaming no borders, no sovreignity, release the druggies. I say hang them, to clean out the cell space. Any Mexican national caught crossing the U.S. border with drugs on their person should be summarily executed without trial or appeal on that spot.

Got that message? If not, shall we send the world's acknowledged experts at kicking Mexico's ass---the United States Marines? HoooooYAH, senor.

The reason we are stalled in the War on Drugs is because our left hasn't got the will to fight. They're most likely also that drug dealer's clients, but that's only partly being snarky.

Bear with me, Sombrero Boy. I saw El Mariachi and the two follow-ups. I know there is vibrant young talent in your country. I never said there wasn't. The Chicanos have given America much over these centuries, but lately all you give us is grief by breaking our laws, left and right.

You, scumbag of a president, deserve a jail cell and your government deserves a coup d'etat, and if the Mexican people were truly smart, they'd do it themselves and save the U.S. the trouble. Clean house and get the drug cartels out of your government.

Money would become available to average Mexicans if your government were not so corrupt. Do not bring yourselves here uninvited. Immigration by legal means is how you make true friends here. That and speak our language, accent be (*)(*)(*)(*)ed.
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I am still waiting for someone to explain why we can NOT have .50 machine guns and rocket launchers.
Because of the issue of competing rights.
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