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Old 10-27-2006, 05:24 AM
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Default The Religious Right

It is my opinion that the Religious Right in this country are all talk and no action. They preach about their love of Jesus and his teachings, and all we see them do is villify Gays, Muslims, Progressives, and anyone else who disagrees with them. (Think I'm lying... Checkout out anything by James Dobson, Falwell, Robertson, etc etc)

Then we progressives see the Amish. They don't allow gay marriage, appear to have no relations with Muslims or other religions, don't teach sex education, don't engage in sex before marriage, abhor pornography, think aborition is a terrible sin, etc etc.

They disagree with liberals and act accordingly on most issues. Yet, nobody villifies them, especially from the left. The reason is that they walk the walk. They live their lives in simplictic, loving, and morally consistant fashion.

They don't hold up signs saying "God kills F%$'s Dead"
They don't stand on street corners with pictures of dead babies.
They don't preach at the top of their lungs so all can hear how pious they are.

Unlike the Religious Right who engages in all of the above.
The Religious Right acts as if they love Jesus, then tell single mothers on welfare, they are a disgrace and they should get a job... while they are shopping for a 52' Plasma Screen TV.
They wear expensive suits, and Prada bags, and worship for 4 hours on Sunday before they go shopping and discuss which Political Candidate they should donate money too.

So my advice is be more like the Amish. No person in America looks at the Amish with anything other than deep respect for their religion and their life style. They should take a look at the writings of Jesus sometime, and maybe considered implementing that in their own lives.

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Old 10-27-2006, 05:37 AM
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The so-called fundamentalist Christians represent the glorification of form over substance. They profess true faith, but fall far short in its practice. They give you words - "airy nothings" - when deeds, not words, are needed. They are not true Christians, and they make a mockery of Christ's teachings. They are the bane of goodness, and would pray their way to heaven on credit than pay with good works. They are pious frauds. Theirs is a peculiar form of hypocrisy that pretends to scruples while abusing them without shame.
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First off, I'd like to say that you're misrepresenting the Religious Right. You are taking a few examples and trying to use them to represent the entire group. It's expanding the specific to the general, which is a big no-no from a logical perspective.

With that aside, I've got a statement to make about the Amish and the members of the Religious Right that you are referring to. The Amish are superior in that they NEVER try to push their beliefs on anybody else. They have their beliefs and if you stand contrary to their beliefs, they will simply remove themselves from your company. Those members of the Religious Right that you referred to would do quite well to learn this lesson from the Amish.
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Old 10-27-2006, 08:05 AM
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I see Ixy's on another rampage trying to vilify organized religion again, using Falwell as his straw man. Yawn. Tres gauche.

For one follower of the egregious idiot holding signs at some funeral, we have 50 vacuum-skull college puke waving BUSH LIED KIDS DIED signs---another virulent form of idiocy, encouraged by the treasonous progressive left.

College scum in dire need of police dogs and water cannons are used by the scummunist left to appear as if AMERICA speaks through them. They are not intelligent to even know who led them by their noses in that last election---George Soros, who's not American and (like them) never will be.
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College kids are not saying they have the moral backing of Jesus.

Add up the followers of Falwell, Dobson, Robertson, etc etc and you will have millions and millions of people. That is not a strawman. They also happen to be the most vocal portion of the Religious Right, get all the air time, and have oddles more contact and influence with Republican law makers than the actual people who emmulate Jesus's teachings.
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College kids are not saying they have the moral backing of Jesus.

Add up the followers of Falwell, Dobson, Robertson, etc etc and you will have millions and millions of people. That is not a strawman. They also happen to be the most vocal portion of the Religious Right, get all the air time, and have oddles more contact and influence with Republican law makers than the actual people who emmulate Jesus's teachings.
Is your freaking hand broken, preventing you from direct written contact or a telephone call to your local congressdweeb? Are you freaking CRIPPLED? Use the process and complain if you don't like something, don't just sit there and lacerate.

I have never listened to Dobson, more than a 10-second sound bite somewhere. I won't watch that smarmy toad Robertson---though he's probably the sharpest (though craziest) analyst of mideast politics. Maybe it's that treacherous gleam when he asks you to mail in your bankbook.

Falwell and Jimmy Swaggart are in that same lot, to be sure. The ones who remind me of the Tennessee joke that you can always tell who's a southern preacher: he's the one running out some housewife's back door, wiping chicken grease off his mouth with one hand and zipping his pants with the other.

"I have sinned!" --- now, let's face it, boys and girls. That was Pure-D Special Delivery Television Magic, bawling out that one. They even used it during Monicagate as the gold standard for laying the con on your acolytes. Twain or Bierce would have loved it.

Sure it's easy to be cynical about megachurches and wildass cults in purple sneakers hoping for the mother-ship. But in between are the sincere folks of various faiths who are sick and really, really tired of being told their faith in God is wrong. We believe differently---and tell it even to Falwell if he asks.

In his case I'd say the same exact thing I say to the libs.

It's your eternity. Do as you will.
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The so-called fundamentalist Christians represent the glorification of form over substance. They profess true faith, but fall far short in its practice. They give you words - "airy nothings" - when deeds, not words, are needed. They are not true Christians, and they make a mockery of Christ's teachings. They are the bane of goodness, and would pray their way to heaven on credit than pay with good works. They are pious frauds. Theirs is a peculiar form of hypocrisy that pretends to scruples while abusing them without shame.
Facile wording aside, can you deny that many Christians do their good works without accepting notice? You discredit the quiet achievers whose good works negate your thesis.
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talk about denial.
If you use Falwell as an example of the whole support of the Religious Right TM, you may forfeit your ability to deny assumptions of Muslims based on the words of radical Imams.
Be more direct in your attacks or make the sacrifice of consistency.
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talk about denial.
You are in need of an Official Clue™ and nothing less.

The religious people are watching the Religious Right just as much as anyone else. In short: you worry about strawmen. Relax. We've watched Elmer Gantry. We know what this is about.
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