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Old 06-09-2004, 10:17 AM
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Default Remember when the World Trade Center was still standing?

What a graphic representation of the Bush presidency. A gaping hole in the ground where once stood a majestic skyscraper.

Kind of fitting, dontcha think?
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Old 06-09-2004, 03:13 PM
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Yeah, that gave Bush a little under two years to revamp the intelligence system that Clinton let founder for 8 previously.

If you point to that as your victory, then who do you really cheer for?
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Old 06-09-2004, 03:32 PM
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Default Remember this?

Remember when the hijackers started planning the attack back in 1999?
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Old 06-09-2004, 03:35 PM
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Default All you need to know is that...

They were still standing when W got the keys.

You two probably blame Abraham Lincoln for Nicole Brown Simpson's murder, dontcha?
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Old 06-09-2004, 04:40 PM
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Default well then since no one before Bush was responsible

Then explain why there never was adequate air protection for our capital...or New York...or why there were insignificant numbers of person who spoke farsi or arabic in our intelligence systems...or why the knowledge of that part of the world was very very limited in our intelligence agencies...or why Clinton didn't acheive his stated goal of limiting our reliance on mid east oil way back when so that this wasnt such a problem or perhaps why the immigration services had allowed these people in the country way back when...
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Old 06-09-2004, 05:55 PM
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Default Not fair

I don't think that the attack could have been avoided whoever was President.

Such a method of attack was unprecedented and unforeseeable and inconceivable from a western perspective.

To blame Bush (or Clinton for that matter) is monumentally unfair.

And without sounding alarmist there is going to be further attacks somewhere around the world at sometime, that is just a sorry fact.

We all need to look for solutions not scapegoats.

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Old 06-09-2004, 06:04 PM
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Default Yes!

Trot excellent answer!!! An attack of that maginitude couldn`t be predictated. It wouldn`t matter who was in the white house! Can`t blame no one!
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Old 06-09-2004, 06:59 PM
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How about we have a vocabulary test for membership, boss?
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Old 06-09-2004, 08:04 PM
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Default Wow

it seems as if some liberals are actually using common sense! Wonders never cease!

HEhe, I'm just playing with you guys. Of course, I concur. I don't think there was anything that either President could have done to predict the attacks. Just remember, the enemy is Bin Laden, not Bush or Clinton.... no matter how partisan you are. I blame a lot on Clinton, but I will never blame the 9-11 attacks on him. That would be totally unfair.
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Old 06-09-2004, 09:09 PM
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Default And wow again...

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it seems as if some liberals are actually using common sense! Wonders never cease!

HEhe, I'm just playing with you guys. Of course, I concur. I don't think there was anything that either President could have done to predict the attacks. Just remember, the enemy is Bin Laden, not Bush or Clinton.... no matter how partisan you are. I blame a lot on Clinton, but I will never blame the 9-11 attacks on him. That would be totally unfair.
A neo-con using common sense? Maybe there is hope. You actually know that our enemy is Bin Laden. Bush thought it was Sadam!
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