Another hypothetical question for anti-war persons. - Page 4

LoSconosciuto · #31 (**permalink**) 01-10-2007, 05:41 AM

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the American Foreign Legion. Not the American Legion, the American Foreign Legion. It's motto: Everybody else's business is our business. The logo would be a giant nose buried between two buttocks.

I didn't get your "propose"...? What was your point?

That was my proposition.

A force made up SOLELY of those who now rattle their (make believe) swords and send other people's sons off to die... while they sit behind computer screens or watch Faux News 14 hours a day.

The program would be one based on the premise, put up or shutup and as a side, it would be a neocon reduction scheme. They'd pay for everything: their meals, weapons, travel, helmets, etc.

At first I was joking. But now, I can't find a reason NOT to do this. IMO, the benefits are astounding. Like the gift that just keeps giving.

Johnderondon · #32 (**permalink**) 01-10-2007, 06:53 AM

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it would be a neocon reduction scheme.

I thought they were heading for the endangered species lists anyway.

LoSconosciuto · #33 (**permalink**) 01-10-2007, 07:29 AM

I'd just like to see a little grease applied to the wheels of progress, that's all.

Jake · #34 (**permalink**) 01-10-2007, 07:59 PM

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The US dealt with unsavory dictators...

Yes it did, didn`t it?

And continues to.....so save the Cold War excuses

Like who?

Jake · #35 (**permalink**) 01-10-2007, 08:06 PM

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the American Foreign Legion. Not the American Legion, the American Foreign Legion. It's motto: Everybody else's business is our business. The logo would be a giant nose buried between two buttocks.

Yaaaa - taking on murderous genocidal dictators is reduced to "Everybody else's business is our business". Notice every time the US bails out euro(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*) (FOUR times in the 20th century) they suddenly get real quiet about "Everybody else's business".

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This would be the group we'd send in to mop up any "objectionable" foreign powers. Gender would not matter. Age wouldn't matter. Physical condition wouldn't matter. Mental stability wouldn't matter.

Which is why you would be in big trouble.

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If nothing else, one thing I hope we've learned (this time) is that if you want to go in with guns blazing, you need a plan that extends past the V-Day celebration.

Thanks for you 20-20 armchair generalship. Garsh, I'll bet you've figured out that Lee shouldn't have attacked at Getysburg?

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But one of my main questions: at what point does our government decide that it should take from the people it represents, to give to those it does not represent? It may seem like a cold question, but it is one which (IMO) MUST be answered before another feel good, multi-billion dollar crusade is begun. Forced redistribution of wealth is forced redistribution of wealth, no matter how you try to spin it. I generally do not agree with this scheme. And that's another reason I oppose fiscally liberal, nation building neoconservatism, as this relates it to its Trotskyite roots.

The point is when the congress votes for it, which they did, including almost all the democrats, who like you, are blessed with 20-20 hindsight.

Jake · #36 (**permalink**) 01-10-2007, 08:09 PM

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If all of the freedom-loving freedom-lovers who love freedom live by their word they will not have traded with Scumeria, so its government will not be able to import the arms with which to continue the subjugation of their people. It will be crushed by popular revolution if not suppored by external powers - read the history.

Oh, like the soviet union, nazi germany, and north korea have been crushed by popular revolution? Garsh, it sure seems people are always ready to trade with dictators - certainly europeans. Hell, even as we speak, euros are catching some rays on Castro's beaches.

Slow down now, don't blame the Europeans for the wrongs caused by the USA itself! Fidel Castros' beaches is the results of the USAs' overconsumption of everything and primarily drugs -and of course- the US peoples' favorite; guns!!! Europeans worship knowledge, not wars! But the USA is the very foundation of wars all around the world! Get some knowledge before you go out accusing others!!

The US fought three times in wars started by euros in the twentieth century - read a history book, Herodotus.

heikstheo · #37 (**permalink**) 01-12-2007, 10:49 AM

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Sorry, argumentum ad verecundiam is not acceptable - I need proof.

See signature.

Sorry, my Latin was awhilw ago and I did not do so well. What then is argumentum ad verecundiam? Obviously, it must be one of the seven or so basic logical fallacies that I should have learned back in high school (again, many years ago).

heikstheo · #38 (**permalink**) 01-12-2007, 10:51 AM

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Sorry, argumentum ad verecundiam is not acceptable - I need proof.

See signature.

How would one go about proving/disproving the notion that nothing exists outside of your own mind? Who was the supposedly great/famous philosopher who dealt with that question?

heikstheo · #39 (**permalink**) 01-12-2007, 10:56 AM

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you are my new best friend.

Jake, be careful when you start asking people for proof to support their arguments. They might just turn around and ask YOU for some to support yours.

Lesseee - he's a masochist, so that must make you a sadist! What a lovely couple!

JAKE you are incredibly childish!! How old are you? 5?! I don't understand why people even bother to answer you seriously!

Just for the record, I doubt that very many five-year-olds even know what sadomasochism is; so, Jake is probably a little bit older than five!

heikstheo · #40 (**permalink**) 01-12-2007, 11:03 AM

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the American Foreign Legion. Not the American Legion, the American Foreign Legion. It's motto: Everybody else's business is our business. The logo would be a giant nose buried between two buttocks.

I didn't get your "propose"...? What was your point?

That was my proposition.

A force made up SOLELY of those who now rattle their (make believe) swords and send other people's sons off to die... while they sit behind computer screens or watch Faux News 14 hours a day.

The program would be one based on the premise, put up or shutup and as a side, it would be a neocon reduction scheme. They'd pay for everything: their meals, weapons, travel, helmets, etc.

At first I was joking. But now, I can't find a reason NOT to do this. IMO, the benefits are astounding. Like the gift that just keeps giving.

Thanks for saying what needed to be said, Lo! I find myself agreeing with you!

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