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Old 01-15-2007, 10:17 AM
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Default When I run for president, this willl be my platform

When I started posting on this site I like many nieve people used the propaganda of m political party to debate my opinions, but now I am much more reasonable and have developed my own beliefs. If I were to run for president (which is what I want to do in 17 years when I turn 35) this would be my platform. Would you vote for me?

(These are in no kind of categories, I just wrote them as I thought of them.)

- I am for more personal freedoms, and less government interference in my life.
- I would like to decrease the size of the government, give them less power.
- I am for lowering taxes if possible.
- I support the 2nd amendment.
- Anyone can come to our country, just do it legally.
- Illegal aliens, that are already here, should be given a chance to become citizens without deportation (because that is a waste of time) but if they do not register by a given date then they will be deported.
- I am pro-life except in certain cases. (rape, health risk to mother)
- I will use common sense and common decency in my decision making.
- I think we should ditch social security. (It's your money, do with it what you wish)
- I think that as long as you are not causing harm to others or the environment, then do what you want. (exception: addicting drugs and stuff i can't think about right now.)
- I would fund the research of alternative fuels.
- Stay out of other countries business unless they are harming or in a position to harm us.
- My religious views tell me that I am opposed to gay marriage, But my political views say,"It's a free country, as long as it doesn't cost me anything, get married if you want to."
- The government should not control smoking laws, except in government buildings, it should be up o the business owner to decide whether or not smoking is allowed in their facility.
- I would like to preserve more national wildlife areas.
- I think that whether there is global warming or not is irrelevant to the issue, and that we need to work on being a cleaner society no matter what. Lets protect the world we live in. As of now its all we have.
- We need to fix or local justice system.
- In court you can't sue for something stupid. (If a kid trips while running through my yard he can't sue me for his broken leg.)
- If it doesn't harm you or anyone else then don't worry about it. (for instance if heir is a religious icon in a public place, lets not waste our time complaining about it, just don't look at it if it bothers you.)
- I am for the death penalty. (it saves space and money)

Basically I believe in this, "who am I to tell you what to do, if you are bring no harm to others and the environment then go for it." I will stand strong by my beliefs, but I will not be stubborn. If someone makes a valid point that causes me to change my view, then I will admit I was wrong.

I am not a very good writer, so if something is confusing, ask me about it, and I will be glad to elaborate on any issue. I know that I have left stuff out, so if you think of something that I left out tell me and I will give you my opinion.

Any arguments, questions, thoughts, considerations, criticisms are welcome.
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I essentially agree with all of the above except the death penalty, but that isn't a major issue to me since there are so few executions in the United States. Certainly, I would vote for you, but don't get your hopes up about becoming President unless you've got friends or family in really high places. Usually it's who you know not what you know that determines political success. Moreover, the mathematical odds against it are overwhelming. Then again, Elvis was told to stick to truck driving.
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- I am for the death penalty. (it saves space and money)
- I support the 2nd amendment.


I like your platform, and I agree with you about the death penalty too (about time we reinstated it!) I believe that what we DON'T need is gun control but we DO need crime and criminal control, period! Personally, I think our police forces need more "Harry Callahan's" on the job to stop crime DEAD!

- In court you can't sue for something stupid. (If a kid trips while running through my yard he can't sue me for his broken leg.)

Regarding the lawsuit thing, RIGHT ON!! Personally, I think it shoud be a SERIOUS FELONY to file a frivolous lawsuit, both the filer AND their lawyer should serve a MINIMUM of 10 years in prison for fraud and extortion, MINIMUM!!!

- Stay out of other countries business unless they are harming or in a position to harm us.

We definitely need a strong robust defense, and we cannot afford to be playing the world's policeman anymore, this quagmire in Iraq is living proof of that, our already stretched-thin military (no thanks to cowards like Clinton and Gore decimating our armed forces) is maxed out. I'm thinking, "Man, what if we get hit over here?" Could we defend ourselves?"


I am for more personal freedoms, and less government interference in my life.
- I would like to decrease the size of the government, give them less power.


Couldn't agree more, stupid, sensless nitpicky legislation in the end costs us all not ionly in terms of money but in productivity and fulfillment.

- I am for lowering taxes if possible.

Me too! I'm not opposed to paying taxes, but dang it, we've gone overboard and there is so much waste and fraud and UNECESSARY spending the gov't does, it needs to be SEVERELY reigned in. I like Neil Boortz's Fair Tax thing a lot, get rid of the IRS (which as far as I'm concerned is no better or different than the Gestapo or KGB) and implemet a national sales/consumption tax on goods bought so to speak, one rate, fair for everyone. The fact that over 1/3 of opur income is taken by the gov't is COMMUNISTIC!



- Anyone can come to our country, just do it legally- Illegal aliens, that are already here, should be given a chance to become citizens without deportation (because that is a waste of time) but if they do not register by a given date then they will be deported. .


EXACTLY! No more making it easy for illegals to come in (this is one thing that has me STEAMED at the current AND past administrations for, such lame dunderheads!


- I would fund the research of alternative fuels.

AMEN BRUTHA!! It's aout time we put Big Oil on notice that they'd better smarten up and realize we ABSOLUTELY NEED to cut off from foreign oil COMPLETELY! NO MORE SACRED COWS! Brazil was smart (unfortunately, it took a very strict piece of legislation to do it), this year or so, they will be COMPLETELY free of foreign oil altogether (by way of ethanol, bio-diesel etc). It just enrages me that we learned NOTHING from the gas crunches in the 70's and the more recent and totally CRIMINAL spike in oil prices (with Hurricane Katrina being the excuse. The Gulf Coast has had hurricanes for decades and NEVER BEFORE were oil prices jacked up because of a storm)


- We need to fix or local justice system.

That's an UNDERSTATEMENT! Our justice system as a whole is in need of a MAJOR overhaul! First, we need to get rid of activist judges, period! They're supposed to be interpreting the law NOT MAKING IT or using the bench to push their personal agenda. The State of CA does have a recall process which is good (I'm sure some other states have it too), I can remember when one Justice Rose Byrd was FINALLY removed from the bench, one of the most dunderheaded, incompetent judges ever to sit on the bench. The recall process served the people well.

We also need to SEVERELY crack down on lawyers, there is just way too much corruption, deception, lying, dishonesty, greed, sleaze and malice that comes from the law profession anymore. It should be REINFORCED especially to criminal defense lawyers that they have NO RIGHT to lie for their client and must presnt a TRUTHFUL AND FACTUAL defense or face a VERY long time in jail (for perjury and obstruction of justice, and maybe even being an accessory to a crime after the fact) in addition to being stripped of their law license forever.

If it doesn't harm you or anyone else then don't worry about it. (for instance if heir is a religious icon in a public place, lets not waste our time complaining about it, just don't look at it if it bothers you.)

Similar comments regarding lawyers would apply here, and the idea of making it a felony to file a frivolous lawsuit, ESPECIALLY one that violates the constitutional rights of others. The ACLU (as far as I'm concerned should stand for American CRIMINAL Liberties Union) needs to be dealt a severe slap in the face on this kind of stuff. The ACLU (and organizations like them) are a far bigger threat to our rights than we think.
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I essentially agree with all of the above except the death penalty, but that isn't a major issue to me since there are so few executions in the United States.
I would echo this. I'd vote for him also, but since he's only 18, he still has a lot to learn. Although, I will give him creditl, he's ahead of the game for most people his age.

Kid, you need to take the time to read the following:

http://www.ruwart.com/Healing/rutoc.html

http://www.buildfreedom.com/tl/rapecon.shtml

Also, go rent the DVD's "Waco: The Rules of Engagement" , "Waco: A New Revelation", "America: Freedom to Fascism" , "Terrorstorm", and "Why We Fight."
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Certainly, I would vote for you, but don't get your hopes up about becoming President unless you've got friends or family in really high places. Usually it's who you know not what you know that determines political success. Moreover, the mathematical odds against it are overwhelming. Then again, Elvis was told to stick to truck driving.
I am working on getting building "contacts." I have done career shadows with local mayors, and have met almost all the mayors in middle tennessee during these shadows. I didnt say much to them and they probubly won't remember me but its a start. I have been emailing with representitive Marsha Blackburn, but she has only responded like once or twice.

It definatly is who you know, and who you can contact, but I think if I can find some rich suthern guy that agrees with me then I could start their.

Also I have a clean record, so no one can dig anything up on me cause basically their is nothing to dig. The only thng they might find is when I got pulled over for mudding in a neiborhood, and the few times the cops wrote my name down for riding my bike on public property.

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So now we just need everyone to think like us and he world will be that much better. You could be my vice president if you want.
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- I am for lowering taxes if possible.
Is there anyone who isn't for lowering taxes...if possible?

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- Illegal aliens, that are already here, should be given a chance to become citizens without deportation (because that is a waste of time) but if they do not register by a given date then they will be deported.
Pretty reasonable. Why do you think deportation is a waste of time?

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- I will use common sense and common decency in my decision making.
I should hope so.

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- I think we should ditch social security. (It's your money, do with it what you wish)
What would happen to the money I've already put into it?

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- do what you want. (exception: addicting drugs and stuff i can't think about right now.)
Also reasonable. We'll have to talk about exactly what you think are addictive drugs.

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- The government should not control smoking laws, except in government buildings, it should be up o the business owner to decide whether or not smoking is allowed in their facility.
With the rising costs of medical insurance due, I support our government regulating our health to some extent.

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- We need to fix or local justice system.
I'm listening...

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- In court you can't sue for something stupid. (If a kid trips while running through my yard he can't sue me for his broken leg.)
I support punishment for frivolous lawsuits. If you present a case claiming your child broke her leg because of something dangerous in the neighbors yard and can't prove it, you should pay a heavy fines for wasting court time.

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- I am for the death penalty.
Not unless we can fix our local justice system.
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I am for more personal freedoms, and less government interference in my life.
I would like to decrease the size of the government, give them less power.
Most people believe the same. But the devil is in the details. What exactly would you do?
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- I am for lowering taxes if possible..
At what point do you consider it possible or impossible?
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- I support the 2nd amendment.
OK. But to what extent? Should violent felons get guns without waiting periods? Should people have access to rocket launchers and tanks (after all in the spirit of the second ammendment, we are supposed to be defending ourselves from armies)?
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- Anyone can come to our country, just do it legally.
I agree. But should we change the laws to make them simpler and more fair... or should we keep them difficult for poor, unskilled people to get by? And if the latter, we are going to need to spend a bundle on fighting would-be immigrants at the borders, given that most in Mexico and below who would come are desperately poor peasants.
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- Illegal aliens, that are already here, should be given a chance to become citizens without deportation (because that is a waste of time) but if they do not register by a given date then they will be deported. .
If trying to deport is a waste of time, how does it become a good deterrent after a certain date? Seems there is more to work on than just that.
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- I am pro-life except in certain cases. (rape, health risk to mother)
Here you match most Americans... but not the ones who this issue will make or break you with.
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- I will use common sense and common decency in my decision making.
Sounds good as campaign rhetoric... But in reality these are very unreliable standards by which to judge. They have no static meaning.
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- I think we should ditch social security. (It's your money, do with it what you wish).
I'll echo Joker's concern: Do I get back what I put in? But aside from that, I think this move would be viewed as a mistake within a generation or at the next stock market catastrophe. It's a better idea to reform social security in some way, change its targeting, make it solvent, possibly partially-privatize it. Getting rid of SS will not return the communal values that once supported the aging population. And what about those who become disabled early in life?
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- I think that as long as you are not causing harm to others or the environment, then do what you want. (exception: addicting drugs and stuff i can't think about right now.)
Why to addictive drugs create a different standard if not for the problems they cause for others? And once again, this is a fairly broad definition, as few agree on the exact point where you can stretch out your arm before hitting my nose.
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- I would fund the research of alternative fuels.
With what funds? Using what method? Some ways of funding science may just be wastes.
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- Stay out of other countries business unless they are harming or in a position to harm us.
At what point do we draw the line at what is harmful to us? What about regional/world stability? This effects us. Is there a line you can draw that specifically states what is and is not our business? I agree in principle... but I don't see a practical way to employ the principle.
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- My religious views tell me that I am opposed to gay marriage, But my political views say,"It's a free country, as long as it doesn't cost me anything, get married if you want to." .
I agree... but you'd get a lot of strong opposition from the religious right.
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- The government should not control smoking laws, except in government buildings, it should be up o the business owner to decide whether or not smoking is allowed in their facility..
I agree. But the government should have a say on public areas. Though I have no real sympathy for smokers... none at all. And frankly I think its a double standard to say addictive drugs are a problem outside of effects on others... while accepting smoking which both directly harms others and is highly addictive.
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- I would like to preserve more national wildlife areas.
How?
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- I think that whether there is global warming or not is irrelevant to the issue, and that we need to work on being a cleaner society no matter what. Lets protect the world we live in. As of now its all we have.
How?
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- We need to fix or local justice system..
A big resounding HOW? As I see it there is little you can do to change our justice system that would not only make it worse.
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- In court you can't sue for something stupid. (If a kid trips while running through my yard he can't sue me for his broken leg.)..
I disagree. Our civil law system is designed to allow the addressing of all grievances and let courts decide. It's a shame that some judges have allowed stupid cases to win... but that reflects on them, not on the system. However, I do think judges should be allowed to rule that the plaintiff pays court costs if the suit is deemed frivelous. There should be risk perhaps, but the law should allow any civil case to be heard.
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- If it doesn't harm you or anyone else then don't worry about it. (for instance if heir is a religious icon in a public place, lets not waste our time complaining about it, just don't look at it if it bothers you.)
And this should be burned into law? I think not. People are free to complain, picket, and sue. Get over it. It's part of being in a free country. How do you determine what harms who if you are unwilling to hear people's grievances?
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- I am for the death penalty. (it saves space and money)
It costs more, in part because we NEED to be sure. The death penalty cannot be undone. It is not right to make it cheaper, in that this increases the chance of executing one who is innocent.
For me saving space and money do not make up for the chance of mistake, no matter how small. I have other reasons for opposing, but they fall in the religious realm.

Over all I think this lacks substance and simply addresses common broad philosophical ideas that are not so easily translated to policy.
That said, the same is true of most politicians and parties.
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I do think judges should be allowed to rule that the plaintiff pays court costs if the suit is deemed frivelous. There should be risk perhaps, but the law should allow any civil case to be heard.
I believe this already occurs, at least I know does if you fight a parking or speeding ticket. If you lose such a case, you have to pay the fine plus court fees. The fees cost $30 dollars in NJ. I'm assuming there is a similar system set up for civil cases, but perhaps the fees are not high enough. Certainly most would be willing to risk $30 dollars for a chance at millions, as can be seen in the amount of frivolous lawsuits in this country. Maybe the fees in to be substantially raised.
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I'd have to believe the actual court costs are higher than that. But as long as the entire court costs are paid, I don't care. I think the only legitimate complaint about frivelous lawsuits (aside from the fact that a lot of judges are insane) is the cost to taxpayers.
I'm not sure if the same standard as tickets applies, since tickets are for criminal offense and fighting a ticket wrongly pulls a cop off the street to fight you in court. I doubt plaintiffs ever pay costs for court fees unless countersued.
What you've really got to do is hit lawyers where it hurts for frivelous cases. but I can't really think of a decent way to do that.
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Is there anyone who isn't for lowering taxes...if possible?
Unfortunately, there are plenty of socialists who would like nothing more than to raise taxes. The top rate under FDR was 95%. There are many people who would LOVE to tax the rich at 95% - even though it only causes them to leave the country or stop being as productive - which costs jobs.

It's like when the Democrats started heavily taxing yachts - well, once they did that, the rich stopped buying as many yachts. As a result, all the middle class people who had been working in the manufacturing of yachts LOST THEIR JOBS. The tax was repealed when all of these people started telling their stories in public and complaining.

I've said it before and I'll say it again, the road to hell is paved with good intentions. People may think raising taxes is a good idea, but you are a slave precisely to the degree in which you are taxed. If you're taxed at 50%, then you're half a slave.
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