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Old 01-28-2007, 07:59 PM
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Default Hillary's handlers need to shut the old lady's mouth!

Latest gaff:

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DAVENPORT, Iowa — Hillary Rodham Clinton said Sunday that President Bush has made a mess of Iraq and it is his responsibility to "extricate" the United States from the situation before before he leaves office.

It would be "the height of irresponsibility" to pass the war along to the next commander in chief, she said.
Awwwww .... she doesn't want to put her money where her mouth is (I mean where her mouth has been lately) and be the prez who goes down in history as abandoning Iraq!
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That's a gaffe?
Don't leave me any difficult stuff - being prez is scary enough for an old lady

isn't a gaffe?
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"People should clean up their own messes" seems like a reasonable philosophy. I didn't see where Hillary said she wouldn't handle it if Bush didn't.

Candidates from both parties would just as soon not have the Iraq mess gumming up the early days of their first term. Presidents want to use their electoral momentum to enact their own policies, not deal with their predecessor's failures.

Further, Republicans would like to have Iraq off the table as an issue by 2008, since it's a lead weight for the party.

Expect to see bipartisan pressure on Bush to get things squared away by then.
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"People should clean up their own messes" seems like a reasonable philosophy. I didn't see where Hillary said she wouldn't handle it if Bush didn't.

Candidates from both parties would just as soon not have the Iraq mess gumming up the early days of their first term. Presidents want to use their electoral momentum to enact their own policies, not deal with their predecessor's failures.

Further, Republicans would like to have Iraq off the table as an issue by 2008, since it's a lead weight for the party.

Expect to see bipartisan pressure on Bush to get things squared away by then.
It doesn't matter what she or whoever the next President wants. Because who ever gets elected is most certainly going to get the debacle in Iraq handed to them.

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P.S. In the event of mass genocide worse than the holocost, or a holy revelation that forces all Iraqi's to forgive and love one another, then No the next President won't have to deal with this.
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So HIllary should shut up for calling for the President to actually act like one and fix what HE broke? Pathetic attempt my boy to say the least. Bush lied us into this war or he moronically only looked at only half the evidence....this being the case its hardly a stretch for people of both parties to say, "Don't just stretch this out so you do not have to make the tough choices all in the name of your "legacy"". If that is how the right supports the troops then I say that the rightwing truly does not care about the troops or America...they just care about thier party.

He broke it he should fix it and your calling HIllary names does not change that FACT.
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Did you see her this morning when they asked her if as president she could handle an evil man like Osama and her reply just sort of popped out: "I'm used to handling evil men."
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"People should clean up their own messes" seems like a reasonable philosophy. I didn't see where Hillary said she wouldn't handle it if Bush didn't.

Candidates from both parties would just as soon not have the Iraq mess gumming up the early days of their first term. Presidents want to use their electoral momentum to enact their own policies, not deal with their predecessor's failures.

Further, Republicans would like to have Iraq off the table as an issue by 2008, since it's a lead weight for the party.

Expect to see bipartisan pressure on Bush to get things squared away by then.
No -

Roosevelt didn't get things squared away
Truman didn't
Kennedy didn't
Johnson didn't

Anyone who can't handle the problems as they exist when they take office is lame and has no business running for president.
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Roosevelt didn't get things squared away
That was a conventional war that was thrust upon him, he had it mostly won, and I think we can cut him some slack for the whole "he died" thing.

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That, too, was a conventional war that was thrust upon him.

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This is true. And it was another guerrilla war. Once again, the best parallel to Iraq is Vietnam.

And you forgot to add: Nixon didn't.

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Anyone who can't handle the problems as they exist when they take office is lame and has no business running for president.
Obviously. But competent people don't like cleaning up the messes of their incompetent predecessors. They have a right to gripe about having to do so.
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