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Could it be that Obama is ashamed of his white heritage?
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Most likely the picture is politically motivated. It's plays to the black vote, and it gives him that underdog image so many people fall for.

At the same time, however, the notion that he is hiding away his white grandma is pretty far fetched. I mean, was anyone even asking to see her before this? And when has it ever been par for the course for presidential candidates to parade their grandparents in front of the cameras.
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Most likely the picture is politically motivated. It's plays to the black vote, and it gives him that underdog image so many people fall for.

At the same time, however, the notion that he is hiding away his white grandma is pretty far fetched. I mean, was anyone even asking to see her before this? And when has it ever been par for the course for presidential candidates to parade their grandparents in front of the cameras.
There never was a multiracial candidate before, and Obama has portrayed himself as black, unlike many americans like him who insist on (more accurately) describing themselves as multi-racial. Obama though, no fool, realizes the maximum campaign advantages to himself in identifying himself as black to blacks, and black to the white liberal establishment, ironically adopting the jim crow edict that "one drop" of black "blood" makes you black. In fact, he is half black and half white.
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It is of course liberals with the race fixation.
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Most likely the picture is politically motivated. It's plays to the black vote, and it gives him that underdog image so many people fall for.

At the same time, however, the notion that he is hiding away his white grandma is pretty far fetched. I mean, was anyone even asking to see her before this? And when has it ever been par for the course for presidential candidates to parade their grandparents in front of the cameras.
There never was a multiracial candidate before, and Obama has portrayed himself as black, unlike many americans like him who insist on (more accurately) describing themselves as multi-racial. Obama though, no fool, realizes the maximum campaign advantages to himself in identifying himself as black to blacks, and black to the white liberal establishment, ironically adopting the jim crow edict that "one drop" of black "blood" makes you black. In fact, he is half black and half white.
People never cease to amaze me. Now you are going to tell the man what he is or isn't. This is the most asinine thread on the board. If the man says that he is black why can't you accept that? If he made the claim that he was white, you would be calling him a wanna be make up your (*)(*)(*)(*) mind you can't have it both ways. Bottomline is the man says that he is black so he is black live with it.

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Most likely the picture is politically motivated. It's plays to the black vote, and it gives him that underdog image so many people fall for.

At the same time, however, the notion that he is hiding away his white grandma is pretty far fetched. I mean, was anyone even asking to see her before this? And when has it ever been par for the course for presidential candidates to parade their grandparents in front of the cameras.
There never was a multiracial candidate before, and Obama has portrayed himself as black, unlike many americans like him who insist on (more accurately) describing themselves as multi-racial. Obama though, no fool, realizes the maximum campaign advantages to himself in identifying himself as black to blacks, and black to the white liberal establishment, ironically adopting the jim crow edict that "one drop" of black "blood" makes you black. In fact, he is half black and half white.
People never cease to amaze me. Now you are going to tell the man what he is or isn't. This is the most asinine thread on the board. If the man says that he is black why can't you accept that? If he made the claim that he was white, you would be calling him a wanna be make up your (*)(*)(*)(*) mind you can't have it both ways. Bottomline is the man says that he is black so he is black live with it.

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That's interesting viewpoint, he's black because he says so? And here I thought genetics determined your race. Didn't realize you could will yourself to be one race or another. He is, point of fact, half black and half white. Not that it should matter when it comes to voting but he is advertising it that's for sure.
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Most likely the picture is politically motivated. It's plays to the black vote, and it gives him that underdog image so many people fall for.

At the same time, however, the notion that he is hiding away his white grandma is pretty far fetched. I mean, was anyone even asking to see her before this? And when has it ever been par for the course for presidential candidates to parade their grandparents in front of the cameras.
There never was a multiracial candidate before, and Obama has portrayed himself as black, unlike many americans like him who insist on (more accurately) describing themselves as multi-racial. Obama though, no fool, realizes the maximum campaign advantages to himself in identifying himself as black to blacks, and black to the white liberal establishment, ironically adopting the jim crow edict that "one drop" of black "blood" makes you black. In fact, he is half black and half white.
People never cease to amaze me. Now you are going to tell the man what he is or isn't. This is the most asinine thread on the board. If the man says that he is black why can't you accept that? If he made the claim that he was white, you would be calling him a wanna be make up your (*)(*)(*)(*) mind you can't have it both ways. Bottomline is the man says that he is black so he is black live with it.

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That's interesting viewpoint, he's black because he says so? And here I thought genetics determined your race. Didn't realize you could will yourself to be one race or another. He is, point of fact, half black and half white. Not that it should matter when it comes to voting but he is advertising it that's for sure.
Liberals will tell you that "race" is not a scientific concept, but it miraculously becomes one when they decide what white people to slam the door on when it comes to "affirmative action" and DIE-versity.
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Actually no. Society determines race, not genetics. If you have all white-people genes but for some reason look black (absurd, this is the part genetics plays... but I'm exaggerating to make the point), are raised around black people and believe yourself to be black... with other people also thinking you're black... you're black. Race is completely about identity based on physical characteristics. In day to day life we do not examine people on a genetic level to determine what race they are. We go by what they look like and who they identify with. There is nothing particularly special about the arbitrary characteristics of races that deserves classification... simply that we see difference.
So a part-black person who grows up in a black neighborhood and who looks more black than white- He's black. He's also of mixed race. Kind of like how I have a little Apache blood... but I'm white. It would be stupid for me to call myself mixed-race (though I do tan pretty well for someone who's usually pale ).
It's also ludicrous to think that his status as being part-white changes anything. Mixed race people are often more socially stigmatized because they are not seen as members of either group. Thus when trying to gain the sympathies of the "white liberal establishment", mixed race works just as well.
I'm not exactly impressed by the website this story is on. It's obviously biased and leaves much to be asked for in the way of evidence that Obama is truly hiding anyone. Since when does anyone give a flying %%%@@% about the grandparents of politicians? What do we know? Do we know what the current health condition is of both grandmothers? Do we know what their relationships were like in recent past? Do we know where they each live in relation to Obama's permanent residence or Washington?
None of that has been satisfactorily established. All we have is the assumption of conspiracy for something so dumb as whether the politician shows off his grandparents in an equitable fashion!
It all seems really ludicrous when you consider from the beginning any one who paid even the slightest bit of attention knew that Obama was part-white. It's not a secret. So what? Are we supposed to be shocked that his grandmother on his white parent's side is white? Christ! What a shock!
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Society doesn't determine race, it may determine how it treats people based on the shade of their skin and other factors, but race is by definition genetic. As a white person you couldn't fill out a government job application and claim you're black simply because you were raised in a black household.

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