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Plots are taking place in more place's then you even know. I am sure you don't because those
things have already been reported on every network but I guess you missed a lot of them.

And you might want to ask what is going down? and why Muslims are so quiet?
the war is real. going on around you.
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This just a thread about all muslims support terrorism?

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First if you look at the top of the article;

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Yaakov Lappin Published: 04.23.07, 08:36 / Israel News
Israel News? Ya that's a real unbiased source.

second the article title said;

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Jihadis aspire to 'conquer France'
We have already established that "Jihadis" are the radical form of Islam.
They speak for a great number of Muslims more if we went by the 1/3 1/3 1/3 "GUESS" rule of numbers, that would mean about 1 third of Muslims would agree with that article.

Finally you can search the Internet and find many articles and propaganda from Jihadis threatening attacks all over the world.
Then you read the articles, there are no specific details or even theories as to how the plan could be carried out.

Sorry that link did little to support your claim that most "Muslims" were planning to take over France.
You will most likely see the same articles and threats when Britain goes to the polls to vote for a new Prime Minister.
Finally France had the election and there was no take over by the Muslims.
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I did not say they did it, they are trying, becouse they know France
is full enought of Muslims now.

Boy your dence.
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I did not say they did it, they are trying, because they know France
is full enough of Muslims now.

Boy your dence.
LOL you believe those bias articles and you call me dense LOL
That truly is the pot calling the kettle black LOL
Where are the "FRENCH" articles that shows their are enough Muslims in France to even try and carry out that plan?

Like I said, the article came from an Israeli site.
If it came from at least a site from a concerned french newspaper it would hold a little more credibility.

radical Islams are posting threats on a daily basis.
Very few have any basis in reality.
If the French people or government is not concerned enough to hold those massive protest demonstrations in the capital, why even bother putting any credibility of articles like that?

oh try using the spell check more "proof-hunter"
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This was on most of the networks back then, now it's not listed
on any of those popular networks anymore, but I did find that
still online. it's not my fault you did not know about it at that
time. it was on TV also.

anyway, about the French Muslim population goes, everyone knows
that France is HIGH on that, it's a fact from tourists that the main
tourists cities in France look french but out site that you would feel
like your in the middle east.

And I suppose you never heard of their problem a few years ago with
their Muslims rioting? why would that make news if their Muslim population
was not big enough to cause a big problem?.
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Hatred has to start from some where.

People would like to believe that terrorists are just radicals.
Another false excuse is that radial Muslims hate Americans just because America is trying to bring democracy and American style of "freedom" to the Middle East.

Let's reverse the scenarios for a minute.
Let's say that America was not this "Super Power" in the World.
Let's say Russia did start a war and America fell and Communism took over.
How many "Radical Americans" would take up arms and fight against commission on American soil?
Now maybe Americans would not go as far as suicide bombings but I'm sure they would set up "road side bombs" to take out Russian "occupying" American soil.

For the record, I do not support the actions terrorists take when women and children are killing by suicide bombers.

Now my question was if anyone has actually listened to the words of terrorists?

They are talking about Americans killing women and children in past and present wars.
Now American excuse their actions as part of friendly fire or "collateral damage."
I guess it makes them sleep better at night when you use words like those.

The problem is that, when a Muslim woman or child dies by the hands of America, it feeds the hatred that the terrorists feel for them.

How many Iraqi women and children died in the first wave of bombing at the start of this war?

It is those deaths that are feeding the hatred.
Another thing feeding the hatred is America "interfering" in Middle East Affairs.
People can spin "liberation" any way you want.
This war stated out as an "Invasion" to get rid of Saddam and find WMDs.
Now, it's an "Occupation."

Everyone in the Middle East saw America turned a blind eye when Saddam did those mass murders.
Everyone in the Middle East sees how America Favours Israel over Palestine.
Every president has tried to set up "Peace Talks" between Israel and Palestine BUT the fact is that America Favours Israel.
A true mediator does not take sides.

The bottom line is that the "Hatred for Americans" is not totally unfounded.
America is not the good guys in the white hats fighting for truth and justice around the world.

So, has anyone really listened to the words when a Terrorist leader sends out a video?
or do you simply pass it off as "unfounded" hatred?

America is not totally "Blameless" when it comes to people hating them around the world.

How sad, you have taken up the liberal "see it from the criminal's point of view" mentality. I don't listen to terrorists because all of what they say is propaganda meant to weaken American spirits and to brainwash people such as you into believing America has no place fighting them or retaliating.
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This was on most of the networks back then, now it's not listed
on any of those popular networks anymore, but I did find that
still online. it's not my fault you did not know about it at that
time. it was on TV also.

anyway, about the French Muslim population goes, everyone knows
that France is HIGH on that, it's a fact from tourists that the main
tourists cities in France look french but out site that you would feel
like your in the middle east.

And I suppose you never heard of their problem a few years ago with
their Muslims rioting? why would that make news if their Muslim population
was not big enough to cause a big problem?.
The French election was this week.
Amazing how networks can pull a major Terrorist take over plan so soon after an election.
The Muslim population is HIGH in Britain too.
I've heard more Muslim controversy coming out of Britain than out of France.
I think the rioting you are talking about was over a cartoon.
That was not specific to France, those riots were global.
It might have been about something the Pope said, either was it was global and not specific to France.
You are trying to get me to believe that France can easily be taken over by the huge Muslim population in France.
You only found one article from a very bias Israeli newspaper site.
It's no secret that Muslims hate Jews and Jews hate Muslims.
So quoting from a Jewish paper is not very credible.
Plus the article itself was was basically stating that the extremist were making threats on France.
We've already established that the extremist are not in the Majority in the Muslim faith.
It's also well know all over the Internet that the extremist post threats every day.
So your one little article link carries very little validity even when you read it.
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I did not say they did it, they are trying, because they know France
is full enough of Muslims now.

Boy your dence.
LOL you believe those bias articles and you call me dense LOL
That truly is the pot calling the kettle black LOL
Where are the "FRENCH" articles that shows their are enough Muslims in France to even try and carry out that plan?

Like I said, the article came from an Israeli site.
If it came from at least a site from a concerned french newspaper it would hold a little more credibility.

radical Islams are posting threats on a daily basis.
Very few have any basis in reality.
If the French people or government is not concerned enough to hold those massive protest demonstrations in the capital, why even bother putting any credibility of articles like that?

oh try using the spell check more "proof-hunter"
He asks for other people's words/Articles.. then he doesn't like the source.. OR .. says you're not using your own words!
Or if you don't know French....
Catch 22.

He doesn't rebut the info in your/ANY link.. just Disses the source.

The fact that Jihadis want to take over France (or Spain for that matter) is hardly News and doesn't come from ynet- it's YNET QUOTING an ARAB MESSAGE BOARD.
So unless you think ynet made it up completely, even while naming the jihadi board.. you got Sh*t- as always.

You'd be better of challenging it on the "few radicals" theme than it's not-surprising Truth.

France (as well as many EU and Scanadianvian countries) does have a Muslim Problem though as evidenced by the riots/Intifada of Last year and so much else we could fill many message boards.

Ohh Right.. "French article"/s

France is Not a Western Country Anymore
By Guy Milliere
March 31, 2003
http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles...le.asp?ID=6976


Islam in France: The French Way of Life Is in Danger
by Michel Gurfinkiel
Middle East Quarterly
March 1997
(abu note: Yes this/these was/were even BETTER as written 10 Years Ago!)

Michel Gurfinkiel is editor in chief of Valeurs Actuelles, France's Leading conservative weekly newsmagazine. A specialist in international affairs, he has recently written Israel: Geopolitique d'une Paix (Michalon, 1996) and Geopolitique de la Criminalite (La Documentation française/Institut des Hautes Etudes de la Securite Interieure, 1996).

http://www.meforum.org/article/337
and also
http://www.meforum.org/article/338
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