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Old 05-07-2007, 01:41 PM
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The soviets produced. So they were a head of of you.

oh, but "were" is the key word here. Has been is another.
Now you will have to face the present facts. I admit that the
past can be used to learn past lessons, but the present is
the current defacto of reality as it stands today.
And the reality is now you linked up with the Russian space station programme and have stopped going to the moon.

And that is reality. Even NASA agree that the space station is the route to go and they're rocket scientists, they should know.
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ashley,
The space station will not get us to mars and beyond.
it's just a play station for now. also I have new news
for you. we are going to go back to the moon, and
then try to head to mars.

When we do it, try to top that one.

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just because f'cken communism was closed to outside world
Maybe. But I am unwilling to take his word for it on an anonymous forum. My claims all contained links to the proof.

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This one half of true! In 1949 in the USSR it has been blown up two nuclear bombs: One on the American technology (though it not American - the American nuclear bomb was done by scientists of all world), the second on original Soviet technology.
Source please.

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But about it to speak it is not accepted in the West now.
So you are saying you expect me to simply take your word for it?

Your word alone on an anonymous forum is insufficient evidence for me. Sorry.

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Read closely! I about TV as about system, instead of about a cathodic tube have written!
So you are claiming Russians were the first to get the idea to broadcast TV? BFD...heh heh

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LCD Technology was not US.
Please post your evidence that the first LCD was not American.

The fact that cavemen invented fire does not mean that cavemen were also responsible for inventing rockets simply because rockets require fire.

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Copy right theft is a US national pass time.

What the US know about invention could be written on the back of a postage stamp. What the US know about theft could be written many books founding many libraries.
Yeah, dont knock yourself out providing actual evidence or anything...we're all happy just to take your word for everything.

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There appear to be several themes running through this thread. The most prominent seems to be simplistic and juvenile cheer leading for the technical and scientific prowess of one nationality versus another.
Duh.

No one is forcing your to participate.

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Large (especially large developed) nations have significant advantages simply because they have more geniuses and more resources to devote to research and development.
China has a larger population than anyone, and has for some time. What was the last major technology they invented?

No, size does not always matter.

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Even nations that are otherwise committed to "free" markets frequently engage in politically driven investment (similar to command economies) in particular areas of science and technology. The Manhattan Project, for example, was not based on allowing the "market" to determine the direction of technological development. It followed the same model as the Soviets' in the recruitment and compulsion of scientists driven toward a politically determined goal.
The scientists themselves were from a society that allowed more freedom of thought. Therefore they were more likely to come up with novel ways of solving problems than more restrictive societies.

You can see this by examining the number of inventions originating from oppressive cultures compared with the number of inventions originating from free cultures.

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First ever computer? Oh,yes, an american invention!
The first electronic computer was:

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The Atanasoff-Berry Computer (ABC) was the first electronic digital computing device.[1] Conceived in 1937, the machine was capable of solving up to 29 simultaneous linear equations and was successfully tested, though its input/output mechanism was still unreliable in 1942 when its inventors left Iowa State College for World War II assignments.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atanasoff-Berry_Computer
If you have evidence to the contrary, feel free to post it.
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ashley,
The space station will not get us to mars and beyond.
it's just a play station for now.
You should read some technical literature before making such baseless statements.

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At present, RSC Energia has developed a conceptual configuration for the interplanetary orbiter where the crew will work during the entire interplanetary transit. This incorporated the experience of work on space stations.

CURRENT DEVELOPMENTAL STATUS
OF MARTIAN MISSION ELEMENTS


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we are going to go back to the moon, and
then try to head to mars.
You're going to Moon and beyond only in Hollywood movies. Were Von Braun alive, he would help you...
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You're going to Moon and beyond only in Hollywood movies. Were Von Braun alive, he would help you...

We done it already, so with that said, I think in order for you to make your statement above
make more since, you should just come out and say that you believe we have not gone
to the moon, and that it was all staged. this way we can classify you under NUT JOB.


Also we are using the space station to take our equipment up to it to test it, while we try
to build the whole ship to mars on the moon.(cheaper to test modules near earth)

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The Russians figured out you need to take a wolf pup before 9 nine days in order to have it grown up tame.

They also figured out that it takes three generations of breeding to turn a fox into a common dog with floppy ears and barking.

Much can also be said about the Nazis but those two countries could do breeding experiments because they had no human rights or decency laws - but we still benefited from them anyway (like the amount of force a pilot could take or transplant surgery).
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Now if my learning of history is correct, and I am sure that my teachers in American did not lie, the space program for the USSR was the brain child of Germans. My father used to say that we have our ( nashi Niemchti) Germans ( von Braun) and the Soviets theirs !!!

So the space race was Nazi vs Nazi and the Nazi's won ha ha

Actually the race for space was the chiild of Goddard an American ROCKETMAN !!!
...seems your "history learning" is taken from an American comic book!
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[quote][Robert Hutchings Goddard (October 5, 1882 – August 10, 1945), U.S. professor and scientist, was a pioneer of controlled, liquid-fueled rocketry. He launched the world's first liquid-fueled rocket on March 16, 1926. From 1930 to 1935 he launched rockets that attained speeds of up to 550 miles an hour. Though his work in the field was revolutionary, he was often ridiculed for his theories. He received little recognition during his own lifetime, but would eventually come to be called one of the "fathers of modern rocketry" for his life's work./quote]
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what about Tomas Edison and the light bulb?
Thomas Edison stole the invention of Russian Alexander Lodygin

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oh, and about the moon landing
Luna 9 spacecraft was the first spacecraft to achieve a lunar soft landing and to transmit photographic data to Earth.
The truth is that Edison worked independently of Lodygin. Lodygin did not devlope his tungsten filament buld until 1906.

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1.K.E. Tsiolkovskiy invented first steel airostat in the 1880-th or metal bird,like newspapers called it,it was just his maket and plan.In 1910 he started his work at his famous invention The flights and traveling in the space by reactive rockets.So he built first rockets,which cos did not fly into space,but have balistic flight to space, He was born this child of SPACE era,which was grewn up by Korolev-the father of Space flights.
2.In the middle of 19 centure Russia invented electro welding.
3.Samuel Born was a Russian immigrant who invented Lollipop candies its a form of stick candy.
4.In 1885, Nikolai Benardos and Stanislav Olszewski were granted a patent for an electric arc welder with a carbon electrode called the Electrogefest. Nikolai Benardos (Russia) and Stanislav Olszewski (Poland) are considered the inventors of modern welding apparatus.
5.Mendeleev has been credited with the invention of the periodic table. Dmitri Mendeleev came up with his first version of the periodic table in 1864, since then more than 700 versions of the table have been proposed.
6.Tamm and Sakharov moved to the Installation of hydrogen bomb in spring 1950.
7.Word comp. Russia/USA
8.Television 1923 year Vladimer Kosma Zworokin
9.Wheel was invented in ancient russian south land or north Messopatamia too
10.Light diodes,semiconductors Losev 1920-th.
11.Lamp steel socket USSR
12.Separator of aqua things....
And a lot of other things which was invented in Russia....
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Yeah.... if you could somehow manage to remove al US forces from Normandy and dismiss the entire US role in WWII [i] believe you would.

Wow the US has invented the time machine has it. Or was that from the DuH2 Twilight Zone


I said IF YOU COULD manage it I have no doubt you would remove the USA from Normandy.
Not in terms of going back in time and changing reality but as in YOU presenting a fake reality now.
What I meant was clear..acting stupid does nothing for you..








Oh and apparently I nailed it on one of my guesses..ANARCHIST..huh?...figures.

Anarchist are like the kids at a school..
They don't know how to make a school..
Don't know how to run a school..
If they ever got the chance to take control the school would fall apart..
They don't believe in the school
They don't even think the school is necessary!
....but boy oh boy do they want to tell everyone how the school should be run.

...and the funniest part is they have so many different hyphenated forms of Anarchist that its reaches the absurd.

Anarchist are usually middle to upper class kids "rebelling". They also tend to be volent if they do more then call themselves Anarchists...--IE trash a McDonalds in some town during a global economic meeting...riot ..etc.
Most grow out of it...some don't. Those who don't usually grasp on to one of the hyphenated versions basically becoming spoilt middle class dilettantes...Noam Chomsky for example.





Oh and Thomas Edison is perhaps the most prolific inventor in world history...
Only other who could even compare to him would be Leanardo Da Vinci. The primary difference between the two though being that unlike Leonardo many of Edisons inventions went form the drawing board to functional reality and dramatically changed the world.
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