Thread: The New World Order

Originally Posted by tomteapack

Wow, all those hours and hours of college econ course I took were a waste. I am so glad to learn that our economy can now be judged by the price of Bank Stocks. Hmm, when will the people in charge of our economy learn this?

Being that all the people in charge of economic matters, have created this global crisis, and no doubt went to better schools than the people on this forum, I would think econ classes being a "waste of time" would be a given to any thinking individual.

Originally Posted by thebrucebeat

There's truth to this, but an inherent problem as well. The US does it with far fewer people as well. We have found a way to eliminate labor better than anyone else in the world, leaving a devestation in our economy that will require us to sell elsewhere more and more, as our own population will be unable to afford what we produce.
A different issue, I know, but problematical nonetheless.

From what I can see, the major jobs problem today is caused by Stockholders in the major corporations. The major corporations today are making record profits every day, but, because of the ignorant stock holders who now run our companies, the profits are drained to pay off the stock holders, instead of using some of them to reinvest, enlarge, improve and modify. Which means NO NEW JOBS.

Originally Posted by tomteapack

From what I can see, the major jobs problem today is caused by Stockholders in the major corporations. The major corporations today are making record profits every day, but, because of the ignorant stock holders who now run our companies, the profits are drained to pay off the stock holders, instead of using some of them to reinvest, enlarge, improve and modify. Which means NO NEW JOBS.

But when they do invest and modernize, more jobs are lost to automation and robotics. The only reason overseas labor is used today is because it's cheaper than the investment in automation.

Originally Posted by Til the Last Drop

Being that all the people in charge of economic matters, have created this global crisis, and no doubt went to better schools than the people on this forum, I would think econ classes being a "waste of time" would be a given to any thinking individual.

Being that all the idiots in charge of this mess are students of politics and vote-getting, then the problem lies with lack of education and statesmanship.
Idiots in office kowtowing to their voters who have no idea what is good for the nation, instead of doing what is RIGHT, despite the cost at the voting booth is the problem with the economy. Our problem is NOT, not knowing what to do, it is with finding people willing to go against the voters to do it.

By the way, being against education is quite often a Christian, right wing trait. Are you a right wing Christian? Just wondering?

Originally Posted by thebrucebeat

But when they do invest and modernize, more jobs are lost to automation and robotics. The only reason overseas labor is used today is because it's cheaper than the investment in automation.

Sorry, but jobs loss due to "automation", does NOT mean less jobs, it just means less "dumb labor" jobs. Tens of thousands of job classifications employing tens of millions of people, exist today that did not exist 50 years ago. While automation does a bit to eliminate dumb labor, the skills that are needed to invent, create and implement that "automation" produce more job opportunities than they eliminate. Couple of fools in a garage many years ago made the first modern chips used in today's computers. These guys that later started Texas Instruments, have literally created MILLIONS AND MILLIONS of jobs. Some people have been heard to be crying about the EBOOKS today, putting PRINTERS out of business, which does happen, but, at the same time, those eBooks have created thousands of jobs for people with the ability to convert the printed text to digital format. Thousands of writers that could not get their books published, now publish their own and make a decent living doing it. Change always brings new opportunities as well as removing the old and out of date. What American needs to do is invest in better education (not more expensive). We do not need to whine about jobs lost.

I believe there is a world tyranny going on, an economic Feudalism. Way back when Andrew Jackson was president he tried and succeeded briefly to revoke the banking charter of the bank of the United states. His declaration was he did not want a group of private men have use of all the deposits of hard working citizens and be beyond the reach of elected officials.
Funny, after he got the charter revoked there was soon after an assassination attempt on his life where the assassin blathered Jackson was dangerous and made many allusions to the Federal bank.

What we have is economic Feudalism. companies locate to the cheapest labor sources where the citizenry live like caged animals and slaves making almost nothing. and then act as if this wage is the new "standard" for wages and to compete they should be "allowed" to have their own slave populations to exploit.

You have the too big to fail baloney where the worst cheats gamblers and lying scum are bailed because they are first in line at the public tit. You have no reform nor any repercussion to financial barberry pirates.

Now we come to Greece. It is not that Europe will not abandon Greece as being trumpeted on the news. What happened when iceland told the World bank to pound sand? Still waiting to hear an answer to that. Iceland told its government You will not accept draconian measures of austerity. They told the World banking system you created this tsunami of debt by selling fraudulent AAA rated investments that Iceland invested in and the people were DEFRAUDED. Now the same banking system wants to LOAN SHARK Iceland and make demands how they will be repaid. Iceland said get lost.

But back to Greece. Why so important to "save" Greece? Greeks are saying the unsayable: banking fraud created much of the worlds financial mess and we do not want your loans tied to your terms when YOUR FISCAL FRAUD started this. The people are Rioting still. If Greeks say screw your loans and we are not paying they are not accepting the terms of the world bank the way citizens across Europe are doing. Saving Greece takes on importance because the fraud in banking has been a taboo subject never seriously undertaken or investigated since banking controls the US and across the World.

The banks and wall street got bailed TWICE on our backs. All whistleblowers silenced, no new reforms to worry the perps and no one went to jail, and the SEC assisting their fraud.http://www.rollingstone.com/politics...rimes-20110817
The Greeks want to rip away the veil of filth that hides the behaviors of the world banking system. Economic Fuedalism that seeks to make all of us serfs.

Originally Posted by tomteapack

Being that all the idiots in charge of this mess are students of politics and vote-getting, then the problem lies with lack of education and statesmanship.
Idiots in office kowtowing to their voters who have no idea what is good for the nation, instead of doing what is RIGHT, despite the cost at the voting booth is the problem with the economy. Our problem is NOT, not knowing what to do, it is with finding people willing to go against the voters to do it.

By the way, being against education is quite often a Christian, right wing trait. Are you a right wing Christian? Just wondering?

You act as if those in charge all didn't go to ivy league schools. Here is the problem with what is going on and that reality. Either A) they know (*)(*)(*)(*) well what they're are doing, and in effect, are traitors, or B) education of theories, especially in fields such as economics, when dictating policy, causes more harm than good.

I have no problem with true education, the teaching of facts, and allowing students to form their own logic, ideas and beliefs surrounding those fact. I do have a problem with "education" that uses just enough truth to serve as a propaganda machine and programming tool. There are few left in America who haven't realized that this is the problem between true media and the "media" we have. Coming to grips with the fact that our educational system is on the same lines is the next reality.

Again ... what is this New World Order.Nutcase like Alex Jones and
those who go on his show to hawk some web site or book always manage
to use the word " THEM " when describing Off shore banks and bankers.
Those of Bilderberg.
This never named mysteriously Huge group of World Nafarious
Demons out to control the earth to have for their own.
I think it's a really convenient way for hacks like Jones to maintain
a charade and keep himself gamefully employed.Just coin around some
term like - New World Order - as if some Video game and their the
goal.When is this Jones hack gonna expose exactly who's behind this
New World Order,where their headquarters are and how they have
board meetings.I mean if this New World Order doesn't even have Board
meetings,how is it an order.
order of what.
Bilderberg meeting once a year ain't gonna cut it.

Originally Posted by Foolardi

Again ... what is this New World Order.Nutcase like Alex Jones and
those who go on his show to hawk some web site or book always manage
to use the word " THEM " when describing Off shore banks and bankers.
Those of Bilderberg.
This never named mysteriously Huge group of World Nafarious
Demons out to control the earth to have for their own.
I think it's a really convenient way for hacks like Jones to maintain
a charade and keep himself gamefully employed.Just coin around some
term like - New World Order - as if some Video game and their the
goal.When is this Jones hack gonna expose exactly who's behind this
New World Order,where their headquarters are and how they have
board meetings.I mean if this New World Order doesn't even have Board
meetings,how is it an order.
order of what.
Bilderberg meeting once a year ain't gonna cut it.

Please. The days of denying it are over. The only option is to acknowledge it and preach the good things about it. I assure you, that is what those in charge already do in every nation on earth but America. Only people in America think there is no global government in the works, and those in America who think it is a conspiracy are going to feel really retarded and betrayed as things like "one world currency" are announced. It is not one group of people, it is many groups of people who are beyond the scope of nations, whether financially, ideologically, and/or in their desires. Churches were the 1st globalized entities. Then came capitalists for trade. Then came international collectivists to counter the capitalists. Then came central bankers, as there is nothing more powerful than controlling nations wealth, and one world currency means one world control. They all still don't agree on what one world should be, but they are all in agreement and will back each other up on the "necessity" of one world. That is why the trolls can argue it is absurd, while nationalists more often then not think it is a secret club. Both are right, while both are wrong.

Originally Posted by macaroniman

I believe there is a world tyranny going on, an economic Feudalism. Way back when Andrew Jackson was president he tried and succeeded briefly to revoke the banking charter of the bank of the United states. His declaration was he did not want a group of private men have use of all the deposits of hard working citizens and be beyond the reach of elected officials.
Funny, after he got the charter revoked there was soon after an assassination attempt on his life where the assassin blathered Jackson was dangerous and made many allusions to the Federal bank.

ROFLOLOL, you really need to look at the "cronyism" of President Jackson. He was not averted to private men using anything, if the private men were his friends, lol. Jackson was more than likely hated as much as any President, other than Obama. He was a terrible president. It is a wonder, that various groups did not make regular attempts to remove him from office. Jackson was as ignorant as many Americans today with no more idea how banks work than my cat.