Thread: The New World Order

Originally Posted by Dr. Righteous

I didn't insult you. And if you read what I posted and you come across something which you can't find a legitimate source for after doing a simple google search, ask me and I'll be glad to back up anything I've said with sources.

I think infowars.com is probably the single greatest source of said information.

But the problem with this information is you can really extrapolate so many different meanings, and this is but one of them.

Originally Posted by Photonic

I think infowars.com is probably the single greatest source of said information.

But the problem with this information is you can really extrapolate so many different meanings, and this is but one of them.

Now you're the one who's insulting me. I don't care for Alex Jones at all. And exactly what parts are you referring to that have many different meanings which can be extrapolated? You're being extremely vague and leaving me hanging here.

Originally Posted by Dr. Righteous

Now you're the one who's insulting me. I don't care for Alex Jones at all. And exactly what parts are you referring to that have many different meanings which can be extrapolated? You're being extremely vague and leaving me hanging here.

Sorry, it's hard not to draw a parallel with infowars.com when that's exactly what they have been preaching for some time.

Corporations do what they do to maximize the amount of money they have. That's why corporations exist. Naturally they will do anything they can to circumvent or control the laws (This includes banks) to accomplish that goal. But to say it's for the purpose of specific banking and corporate families to create a global civilization of universal poverty is kind of taking it a bit out of wack.

Originally Posted by Photonic

Sorry, it's hard not to draw a parallel with infowars.com when that's exactly what they have been preaching for some time.

Corporations do what they do to maximize the amount of money they have. That's why corporations exist. Naturally they will do anything they can to circumvent or control the laws (This includes banks) to accomplish that goal. But to say it's for the purpose of specific banking and corporate families to create a global civilization of universal poverty is kind of taking it a bit out of wack.

Maybe...it's not just corporate and banking families though, like you said it's really any corporation that takes advantage of government subversion of the free market. It's all a giant push that is unintentionally taking us in that direction, but there are those few at the very top who actively want it to happen. If you look at where we are right now, and what's happening, I think that my speculation of where we're going is not too farfetched, honestly. It seems to me that it's a rather logical progression, assuming the current trend in our political system continues.

It's foolish to think that all the changes in the world today are by accident rather than design. Our best defense is a renewed respect for our Constitution and a government that actually abides by it. It is a prickly document that Collectivists would love to see completely undermined. We have to get our financial house in order so that we quit selling our sovereignty. This won't happen on its own. We have to demand it. The upcoming election cycle is, in my view, the most critical one of my lifetime. We are at the brink and we have to pull back before it's too late. Time is running VERY short for our republic.

Originally Posted by Dr. Righteous

Maybe...it's not just corporate and banking families though, like you said it's really any corporation that takes advantage of government subversion of the free market. It's all a giant push that is unintentionally taking us in that direction, but there are those few at the very top who actively want it to happen. If you look at where we are right now, and what's happening, I think that my speculation of where we're going is not too farfetched, honestly. It seems to me that it's a rather logical progression, assuming the current trend in our political system continues.

Ok, I'm starting to see where you are coming from. I'm glad you aren't advocating blind belief in your theory. I suppose if there were no checks in place, it would certainly be a natural progression, but thankfully there are checks in place. I'm hoping people wise up and see them before anything like this could occur.

Originally Posted by Photonic

Ok, I'm starting to see where you are coming from. I'm glad you aren't advocating blind belief in your theory. I suppose if there were no checks in place, it would certainly be a natural progression, but thankfully there are checks in place. I'm hoping people wise up and see them before anything like this could occur.

I agree. Really, it would only take the simple act of abolishing federal legal tender laws to put the brakes on everything. Easier said than done though. I will continue to remain pessimistic, and when the dollar crashes, I suspect we will not turn to free money as the solution, but will accept IMF SDRs as legal tender to replace the dollar.

Originally Posted by Woogs

It's foolish to think that all the changes in the world today are by accident rather than design. Our best defense is a renewed respect for our Constitution and a government that actually abides by it. It is a prickly document that Collectivists would love to see completely undermined. We have to get our financial house in order so that we quit selling our sovereignty. This won't happen on its own. We have to demand it. The upcoming election cycle is, in my view, the most critical one of my lifetime. We are at the brink and we have to pull back before it's too late. Time is running VERY short for our republic.

Yes indeed, and in fact it may already be too late. Ron Paul is the only individualist out of the handful of collectivists being offered by the Republican establishment as opposition to the collectivist in the white house.

Sighhhh. The "secret societies"!

Here is what Dr. Quigley thought of the conspiracy theorists' abuse of his work studying secret societies.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carroll_Quigley

Quigley is also cited by several other authors who assert the existence of powerful conspiracies. Jim Marrs, whose work was used as a source by Oliver Stone in his film JFK, cites Quigley in his book Rule By Secrecy, which describes a conspiracy linking the Milner Group, Skull and Bones, the Trilateral Commission, the Bavarian Illuminati, the Knights Templar, and aliens who posed as the Sumerian gods thousands of years ago.[10] Pat Robertson’s book The New World Order cites Quigley as an authority on a powerful conspiracy.[2]:98 Conservative activist Phyllis Schlafly has asserted that Bill Clinton’s political success was due to his pursuit of the “world government” agenda he learned from Quigley.[2]:98 G. Edward Griffin relies heavily on Quigley for information about the role Milner's secret society plays in the Federal Reserve in his book The Creature from Jekyll Island: A Second Look at the Federal Reserve. [11]

Quigley was later dismissive of some of the authors who used his writings to support theories of a world domination conspiracy. Of W. Cleon Skousen's The Naked Capitalist he stated:

Skousen’s book is full of misrepresentations and factual errors. He claims that I have written of a conspiracy of the super-rich who are pro-Communist and wish to take over the world and that I’m a member of this group. But I never called it a conspiracy and don’t regard it as such. I'm not an “insider” of these rich persons, although Skousen thinks so. I happen to know some of them and liked them, although I disagreed with some of the things they did before 1940.[12]

On Gary Allen's None Dare Call It Conspiracy he said:
They thought Dr. Carroll Quigley proved everything. For example, they constantly misquote me to this effect: that Lord Milner (the dominant trustee of the Cecil Rhodes Trust and a heavy in the Round Table Group) helped finance the Bolsheviks. I have been through the greater part of Milner’s private papers and have found no evidence to support that. Further, None Dare Call It Conspiracy insists that international bankers were a single bloc, were all powerful and remain so today. I, on the contrary, stated in my book that they were much divided, often fought among themselves, had great influence but not control of political life and were sharply reduced in power about 1931-1940, when they became less influential than monopolized industry.[13]

Originally Posted by Dr. Righteous

Yes indeed, and in fact it may already be too late. Ron Paul is the only individualist out of the handful of collectivists being offered by the Republican establishment as opposition to the collectivist in the white house.

Wot's a "collectivist"? Wood dat be someone who thinks they live in a "society"? You know, a conglomeration of nerds lookin out for one another?