I am not a REpublican or a Democrat, as, suprise suprise, I am not an American!

And as a forgeigner, I can not and will not critize President Bush's internal policies. Bu I will admit, I am no fan of the president.

He's forgeign policy, for me, is a disator. It is hyporctical, and no good for the rest of the world. I think that, insted of making the world safer, he has acheived the right opposite. Where we never had problems with Islamitic extremists, even we now have to keep an eye on them all of a sudden.

I agree with Java, he may be a nice person. And as President of the USA, it makes sense he will have the USA's intersets at heart. But he needs to understand that, sometimes, what is good for the world Is good for the USA. And he must also understand that if it is his right to do what he thinks is best for his country, other leaders have the same right.

AH

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I think the country has turned on Bush for three basic reasons:

1) His willfulness is now perceived as stubbornness.

2) He has put our country in a position of losing a war (which most agree now should have never started), and the U.S. citizenry hates to lose.

3) The price of gas.

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What in gods name are you talking about? Nobody on this thread has even said anything about that election. I'm not going to debate whether or not he fixed it, it's old news and it's ironic to me that you would bring this up after noone else brought this up to criticize bush, but you did to try to argue against it. Even after almost everybody on here has said I don't hate Bush, this is why I don't think he's a good president you come on claiming we all hate him and we don't have a reason. Come up with some real points and quit trying to confuse the issue.

We're also not debating if Clinton was a good president or not. Is the only way you can defend Bush by criticizing liberals and Clinton? Why don't you focus on addressing what people have said and try to debate about that instead of bringing up random crap that has nothing to do with this post.

I agree with what you said.
I'm amazed at how divided your country has become since Bush took office.
It's basically divided 50% - 50%
I saw that in both elections that Bush had.
Issued in the USA use to be clear cut and black and white, (not in the race sense either)
I do not remember a time in American history where the entire country has been so split on every issue.
Even on this debate, the DEMS did this, the REPS did that.
My God is that is all that is left of the once Proud American that I admired.
I remember a time where Americans debated ISSUES.
Now in 2007 it's become a huge Blame Game in EVERY issue.
No one is coming up with reasons and solutions.
Oh we are in this situation because the REPS did this,
Oh we are in this situation because the DEMS did that.

Your last elections did NOTHING. your country is still split and the blame game is just reversed.
For 6 years the DEMS blamed the REPS because the REPS were in power.
Now it's the DEMS fault because they are in power.
The blame gamers use to be a bunch of whining children very small on the debates.
Now, no matter what issue is debated in this forum, the blame game is alive and well.
Like the guys said, what has DEMS and REPS have to do with the topic here?
The guy asked why one man is disliked.
It's clear on both sided that some DEMS and REPS dislike BUSH.
AND some DEMS and REPS Like BUSH.

For only one brief point in American history where the DEMS and REPS didn't matter.
It took the deaths of over 3,000 Innocent Americans on September 911 to stop the blame game and come together as one united country.
September 11 also gave America complete support from almost every country around the world.
Your president Wasted that opportunity for many countries to finally work together as a global fight on terrorism.
He had the 100% support for going into Afghanistan.
Had he not lied about the serious threat about WMDs in Iraq the world would be in Iraq right now trying to stabilize that country.
Had he found WMDs, the world would have joined him and sent as many troops and needed to stabilize Iraq.
Bush wanted this to be HIS SHOW.
His father had the world's support when he went to war to kick Saddam out of Kuwait.
Bush Sr. showed a clear threat and asked the world to help in solve it.
Back then the entire world supported him to go even further and remove Saddam all together.
He stood up and said he did what he set out to do, he freed Kuwait.
Mission Accomplished!!
Too bad the son did not take after his father.
Bush Jr. is dislike because he is incapable of admitting that he was wrong.
He is disliked because he keeps changing his own stories.
September 2001 Bin Laden was top in his agenda.
Today, Bin Laden is not even in the top 10 on his agenda.
Why?
Bush is dislike for not finishing one war before starting another war.

Liberty for who?

The pigs mess in Iraq is not liberty. The Iraqis are fighting for Liberty from US oppression. Bush moralising over Democracy while being in charge of a government that is inherently against democracy for others is one sermon to many. The US backs dictators not democratic governments.

Saddam used WMDs bought from the Dutch and US and did not have the capability of replacing them. In the WMD department he had been neutered. Saddam did not directly support terrorists but did support the families of Terrorists/martyrs who were fighting for their homeland. What you have termed terrorists are freedom fighters.

As Palestine/Israel does not have the universal vote (one man one vote) it can hardly be described as a democracy. By denying the Arabs the right to form political parties takes away the Arab political voice from that do have a vote.

One of the strengths of the US is that its citizens are easily able to forget their part in the murky machinations of global flash points. And are then able to get on as though they never happened.

One of the weaknesses of the US is that its citizens are easily able to forget their part in the murky machinations of global flash points. And are more likely to repeat the same mistakes time and again.

Off topic as usually Ashley.
I may get off topic some times during a post but my entire post is not off topic.
Your two posts here have zero to do with this topic.
Your only motive is to bash Americans without reading their posts.
Yes, I bash Americans but I do acknowledge when Americans make a good point in their own defence.
YOU bash and bring up irrelevant propaganda in all our posts.
what has Israel have to do with this subject?
Do you even read the posts or do you simply hit the "Quote" button?
You quoted me and never said one word about what I said.
What was the point of quoting my post?

Mostly ignorance sane-one, or perhaps divine intelligence like the kind people like Java Black put forth every now and then. Thats why this causes such a catastrophic debate, because mostly ignorant people want to comment on someone who could be argued to be ignorant himself. Ignorance + ignorance = non-sense. I don't like Bush, I don't hate him, I think I probably speak for most people when I say he's made some delibrate cock ups on his part like the war and so on but can be quite refreshing at times when he trys to talk like an evangelical politician and so on. Don't let it get you down man, keep debating, the greater purpose is in sight.

Bush is doing a good job, given the circumstances. I think that the problem most people have is that they don't realize that the circumstances are too much for any president (except maybe Reagan...or Washington or Roosevelt) to really do an excellent job under. But the conditions are such that the American people want an excellent job. I mean, terrorism on every corner, gas prices on the rise everywhere because of the instibility in the mid-east, already falling support of the US, and now we've voted in a democratic congress making it even worse, we got our selves tied up in a war that was supposed to take a couple of years (but will be worse unless we stay), etc.

But I don't know, I would still vote for Bush so I cant speak for those who wouldn't/

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That's because it was sold as a war for defense, planned like a war of aggression, then carried out like a war for humanitarian aid and nation-building...
If people knew what kind of war it was from the beginning and planned for it properly, we'd know what to expect.
Unfortunately this war was never sold for what it was. Instead the administration grasped at whatever kind of "defense" reasoning it could get ahold of, real or imagined, so that the American people would be more likely to go along.
They knew all along we'd end up in this situation... but they neither sold it that way nor planned it that way. Incompetence.

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