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Yes, the suicide bombers were terrorists, but Saddam was not supporting terrorism by paying their families after they blew themselves up. 4 19.05%
Yes, the suicide bombers are terrorists and Saddam was supporting terrorism by paying their families after they blew themselves up. 15 71.43%
No, the suicide bombers were not terrorists, and Saddam was not supporting terrorim by paying their familes after they blew themselves up. 2 9.52%
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Old 05-31-2007, 01:43 PM
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Default POLL - Is this an example of supporting terrorists?

This poll is specifically in reference to the issue of Saddam's payments to the families of suicide bombers. Just to refresh your memory:

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Saddam Pays 25K for Palestinian Bombers

Saddam Hussein is paying $25,000 to the relatives of Palestinian suicide bombers — a $15,000 raise much welcomed by the bombers' families.

In Tulkarm, one of the poorest towns on the West Bank, a member of the Palestinian Legislative Council handed out the checks from Saddam. The payments have been made for at least two years, but the amount has suddenly jumped up by $15,000 — a bonus for the families of martyrs, to reward those taking part in the escalating war against Israel.

[...] "You can interpret it in various ways. One way is that it is a deliberate way for Baghdad to escalate the suicide bombings."

McGeough quoted the Arab Liberation Front's Ma'amoon Tayeh as saying the extra $15,000 would encourage more suicide-bomber volunteers to "confirm the legitimacy of our national questions." Why?

"Saddam Hussein considers Palestine to be a governate of Iraq and he thinks the same of the Palestinian martyrs as he does of Iraqi martyrs — they all are martyrs for the whole Arab nation," Tayeh was quoted as saying.


http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,48822,00.html
Another user on here has made the claim that this was not supporting terrorism, because these suicide bombers are not terrorists. Feel free to post comments. I have no motive for this poll beyond satisfying my own curiosity.
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I'm not saying we are terrorists but at dictionary.com the definition reads:

ter·ror·ism
1. the use of violence and threats to intimidate or coerce, esp. for political purposes.
ter·ror·ist
1. a person, usually a member of a group, who uses or advocates terrorism.

According to the definition any country could be defined as a terrorist.

Like I have said time and time again the "war on terror" could me any individual or any country it doesn't give any "enemy".

If I punch you and say give me your money you could by definition call me a terrorist.....think about it.
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All these arguments are exactly the same terrorism bad Bush good or Bush bad and the war is stupid.

Think about this war for a minute....we were invaded in 2001, we then go to find the people responsible, we don't find them......so we invade Iraq and call them the terrorists, we kill their leader and deal with civil war.......meanwhile there are more "terrorists" (I don't mean in the sense of Savior I mean in the definitional sense as in N.Korea, Iran, plus all the factions) now instead of securing our borders and keeping our army close to protect our people from all the other "terrorists" who have bigger weapons and can do us a lot lot more harm.....with our military out of the country we are left defenseless unable to even control people running (yes RUNNING) across our borders, we are unable to control the food that is coming internationally into our country (how easy would poisoning that be?), and we still do little checking at the airport let alone get officers on planes. We spend all this money trying to overthrow one leader who means us harm while allowing others to grow against us, while all the time we leave our country, I'll give you a little bit (and I mean an itty itty itty bit) more prepared and cautious for an attack.
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This is the one credible instance of Saddam supporting terrorism.


But lets put this in perspective, just about every other country in the region supports terrorism against Israel with Syria and Iran being the biggest perpetrators. If we really wanted to fight terrorism Iraq would be just about the last place we would invade. Supporting the PLO with minimal cash handouts is just so minor compared to say...Iran and Syira giving millions of dollars in cash and most likely rockets to Hezbollah.
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This is the one credible instance of Saddam supporting terrorism.
And, naturally, it wasn't even against America. Go figure. You would think Israel would have cared a bit more. And you are right-compared to Syria and Iran, Saddam's support was pretty lame.
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This is a clear example of inciting further terrorism.
If there were any people teetering on the edge of whether it was worth it to give his life to attack Israel, the money for his family (which he likely could not provide) would be a satisfactory turning point. It's a very sick move... not surprisingly. This is Saddam we're talking about.
However as it relates to the war arguments, as used to sell the war, these incentives did not help terrorism against America nor did they involve al Queda.
They are however good evidence as to why we should be glad Saddam is gone... now if only Iraq gets put back together before the people have put their foot down on this war.
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Even if Saddam did pay families of suicide bombers, is that a good reason to invade another country and plunge it into a civil war?
The Terrorists were NOT IN IRAQ!!!
NO WMDs!!
Saddam was not even close to making WMDs.
Nothing has been found.

Other Dictators are closer than Saddam ever was to making WMDs and supporting terrorists yet the USA is doing nothing.
Iran is clearly supporting terrorism.
Iran has clearly threaten Israel in many speeches by it's dictator.
There is Proof by Iranian weapons found in Iraq.
Pakistan is harbouring Terrorists.
There is Proof along the borders.
Yet the States sit back and do NOTHING!!

If you are going to justify this war based on what Saddam "wanted to do,"
Then you have to apply the same justifications to all the other Dictators.
AND the States have to take the same actions as they did in Iraq.

How can it be right to invade Iraq and not right to do the same actions toward another country that clearly supports terrorism?
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According to the definition any country could be defined as a terrorist.
Why is it so hard for you people to answer a simple question? Was Saddam supporting terrorism in this example or not?

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Even if Saddam did pay families of suicide bombers, is that a good reason to invade another country and plunge it into a civil war?
Start another thread and find out.

The only purpose of this thread is to determine if people believe this is an example of supporting terrorism or not.

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If you are going to justify this war based on what Saddam "wanted to do,"
This thread isnt about justifying anything. It is about determining what people think is and is not supporting terrorism where Saddam is concerned.
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In particular, I would like to hear from the 2 people (so far) who voted the 2nd option. Explain how Saddam is not encouraging terrorism by offering his $25,000 reward to the families of suicide bombers who blow themselves up.
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According to the definition any country could be defined as a terrorist.
Why is it so hard for you people to answer a simple question? Was Saddam supporting terrorism in this example or not?
Like I said just about everyone and every country could be said to support terrorism, read the definition. The question is biased to support the anwsers you want. Why not ask is this justification for the war? Why? Because you won't get the anwsers you want.

Give me the name of one world leader who is not by definition a terrorist or supports terrorists.
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