Thread: More guns...Lower Crime...Again!

Originally Posted by 97240sx

I think that urban areas should have different laws than rural areas.

Instead of making laws that apply "statewide" laws should vary by city or county. It's common sense that you shouldn't be able to walk into a grocery store in the middle of New York with an AK-47, but in some rural areas where police take 2 hours to get to you if you need help, I can understand why it isn't so bad to own a hunting rifle or a shotgun.

That's a terribly false assertion. You should be able to own firearms anywhere you live. When every single counts as either life or death, the police are just MINUTES away...not to mention, the crime in the city will substantially increase if criminals know that city residents have no protection.

Texas is f8cking safe... its also full of beaners... El paso texas.. a city of 750000.. is one of the safest large cities in the United States.. its across from THE MOST dangerous city in the world; Juarez , Chihuahua, Mexico ( as far as getting killed by a bullet goes.. or a chainsaw).. El Paso Texas is chock full of beaners... like 80 to 90%... ergo..

We should look to the beaner for the way to living in peace and harmony... the american beaner clearly has some secret knowledge .. a way of life that can ignore a low standard of living and yet remain above the white mans answer to all problems.. kill the dude with the (*)(*)(*)(*) you want.

Kudos beaners... you guys rock.

Originally Posted by JIMV

The Charts are both labeled 'The Brady Campaign' and they do in fact simply make up numbers, notoriously...

As I already said, the rating is from the Brady Campaign, the crimes rates from StateMaster.

Find the correlation.

Originally Posted by JIMV

The Charts are both labeled 'The Brady Campaign' and they do in fact simply make up numbers, notoriously...

Regardless, it was for a Brady stat. I think their views of how much gun control a state has is pretty accurate. I would use it as a way to avoid states. Now, if they are talking about crime rates, etc., I wouldn't trust them at all.

correlation on causation

Originally Posted by LiberalActivist

correlation on causation

I can disprove your signature with such great ease, you wouldn't even know how to reply.

Originally Posted by perdidochas

It shows that crime is not associated with gun sales. Hence, we should get rid of restrictions on guns, as they don't seem to do much of anything. If a law does nothing useful, it should be eliminated in the name of increased liberty.

The crime rate has more to do with pot and other drugs being illegal than anything else. Criminals sale illegal drugs to make money. If they were legal, no one would buy them from criminals and criminals would have no money.

Originally Posted by Wolverine

I am not convinced by "more gun less crime" being that there is not a correlation between crime and states with strict gun control and states with lax gun control. Not to say more gun control would be effective, just that the notion that an increase in firearms will reduce crime is unfounded.

Guns are not used enough for self-defense to prevent a notable number of crimes, and even less are used in crimes to contribute significantly to the number of crimes.

Guns =/= crime

There is between countries with strict gun laws and countries with lax gun laws. What's there not to get? Research the stats and try to keep emotions out of the debate.

I believe you will find a stronger correlation between the level of diversity and violence than the level of gun laws....Big obvious minorities, big violence.