Thread: Intellectual Property is not property

Originally Posted by Molchmeister

The world you propose is one where pharmacuetical companies never release their drugs to the public, they have high security clinics where you go for treatment if you can afford it, or suffer/die because noone is taking that pill out of here. Every consumer product is the same, because no company's going to spend money on R&D if another company can just reverse engineer it. Innovation would slow to a crawl, and really China with their slave labor would be selling $50 I-Pads and $2000 Mustangs and without these IP/copyright laws you wouldn't even be able to tell what company made them... they'd just put an Apple or Ford icon on them with no legal repercussions. ....

You'd have to go through a body scanner to go to the movies, and they'll never release one on DVD just not worth the expense. So pretty much a new modern day dark age. Wages fall, unemployment skyrockets as we can't compete with third world labor, and I really wish I new how to farm for this utopia you created.
Molchan

Are you implying this was how it was before patents? LOL ever heard of ancient greece?

Do you realize that all the security and the body scanners in every theater would cost more than the actual loss from someone downloading the movies?

Why wouldn't they R&D a project? People still have a demand for the drugs, maybe you'd see a voluntary collaboration between businesses in the pharmaceutical industry. Their are so many possibilities, you just have to use a little imagination and open your mind.

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Originally Posted by kilgram

You know that USA until the 70s was considered the pirate country? Was the country with less IP laws of the world. While USA didn't have almost no IP laws was when innovate more. And made of USA what is now.

USA has innovated so much in spite of IP laws.

Proof.

Depends. I prefer freedom and know that I am helping to other people rather to earn a lot of money. For me the money is just a mean to live, and a lot of people think like me.

Your idea of freedom is much different than mine. Your socialist ideolgy has been proven a losing system time and time again.

Originally Posted by maat

Proof.

There is lots of proof in ‘against Intellectual Monopoly’. Just the first three or four chapters would help your understanding. I think you should read at least some of it, maybe you will stop spreading lies.

http://www.dklevine.com/general/inte...al/against.htm

Read it!

So lets say I like to write and I publish stories on fiction sites over the internet.

One day, I go into a book store, and buy some novel in my favorite genre, and open it up and find my own words staring back at me and some other guy got millions of dollars in publishing royalties by using my stories stolen off the internet?

What is your solution for me with no IP laws? (*)(*)(*)(*) you dude for being dumb enough to share your talent with the world?

I mean really... that would (*)(*)(*)(*) me off if that happened. I would sue, and I would expect remuneration for my work being stolen off the net like that, and if the law wouldn't give it to me, then I'd go find the "author" and take it out of his ass.

Originally Posted by SiliconMagician

I mean really... that would (*)(*)(*)(*) me off if that happened. I would sue, and I would expect remuneration for my work being stolen off the net like that, and if the law wouldn't give it to me, then I'd go find the "author" and take it out of his ass.

Yup. I would too.

Originally Posted by Til the Last Drop

Yup. I would too.

Me too, it's my work no matter what these other guys say. They just are looking for the easy way out, steal some one else's idea and claim it as there own. Go get jobs with Microsoft then, they have made an art of it.

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Proof.

Look in the history of the copyright.

USA until the 60s-70s had less copyright laws than France and other European countries and it made that USA become more competitive than European countries.

Your idea of freedom is much different than mine. Your socialist ideolgy has been proven a losing system time and time again.

I am not socialist. I am anarchist.

And my idea has of freedom has been proved be real. The yours no.

Simply because your idea of freedom depends of how much money you have. If you have more money you're more free than someone with the just for life. That is not freedom.

Originally Posted by kilgram

Look in the history of the copyright.

USA until the 60s-70s had less copyright laws than France and other European countries and it made that USA become more competitive than European countries.

False. USA had the most copyright laws since the industrial age.

Know your history, for once.

Originally Posted by Til the Last Drop

A better example would be the GEO Metro, that EVERYONE loved for its 4 banger 50 miles to the gallon, that oil companies and car makers hope people forget about.

You conveniently forget that almost nobody bought them! Yes, they got 50+MPG (actually, the 50MPG Metro had a 3 cylinder), they were also cramped, slow, noisy, bouncy, coarse tin cans. They couldn't pass tightening safety standards (I'm not sure ABS was even available, much less traction/stability control), and like most roller skate cars in the US, they never sold especially well.

Originally Posted by RtWngaFraud

Oh yeah...those electric cars are just clogging the streets....

I bet few here even knew the technology already existed.....30 years ago. Big oil didn't approve though, so it was shelved.

Electric cars existed 90 years ago. (Henry Ford's wife drove one.) They weren't practical then and still are not practical!