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Old 06-11-2007, 07:18 AM
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I was off a little bit with the billion dollar salary...so I was exaggerating. But the oil companies charge us ridiculous prices for gas, yet are making more and more money. Why is that? They keep saying that oil is becoming more expensive, yet they're making record profits. Here's the article you can decide if this is right or not.

http://www.bizjournals.com/dallas/st...24/story4.html
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That's why they are making record profits. Jeez.
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Tell ya what, why don't you and other Republicans commit yourselves to reducing the growing income and wealth gap in the US and we'll engage in much less "Bush bashing." Until then, don't pretend that your party is significantly committed to any objectives other than somehow rescuing its well-deserved reputation for mismanagement and blaming everyone else for the problems that only got worse during its watch.
Tell your party to come up with more ideas than taking money from people who work and giving it to people who don't work or taking money from people who made the right choices in their lives and giving it to those who didn't and then maybe we can have a serious discussion.
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I was off a little bit with the billion dollar salary...so I was exaggerating. But the oil companies charge us ridiculous prices for gas, yet are making more and more money. Why is that? They keep saying that oil is becoming more expensive, yet they're making record profits. Here's the article you can decide if this is right or not.

http://www.bizjournals.com/dallas/st...24/story4.html
An interesting article, even though it is 7 years old and is specific to the top 10 incomes of one market (Dallas).

Personally, I'm less angry with Oil companies making "record profits" in an industry where WE (comsumers) continually buy MORE every year. By the pure volume of our own consumption, Oil companies would gain record profits. Now, add the price component, and it's even better for the Oil execs.

But here's why it doesn't bother me as much as it may bother other people...

The Government (all levels) tax gasoline at more than twice the profit margins of Oil companies. Hell, in NY, the tax per gallon hovers around 50 cents. That bugs me more. Why? Because the same people who are taxing us with these insane percentages, are the same people on TV every night talking about how evil Oil Execs are for charging us half as much.

Additionally, I'm probably a little less passionate about the prices at the pump, since I don't need to drive all that much - and my personal experience at the pump is much less expensive than many other peoples' as a result.

Still, I understand the complaint... but honestly... in the last 20 years the costs of...
  • * tuition is up over 300%
    * medical Care is up over 200%
    * rent and housing is up over 100%
    * food is up about 100%
....So really, I'm not all that surprised that the price of gas is up as much as food is (and 1/3rd as much as tuition.

Hell, the US Government buys its currency at a 22% profit margin too, and that's more than double the profit margin of oil companies... but we never hear about that.

It really is easy to hate the Oil Companies. No one likes them. Neither do I. They're a necessary evil (unless we miraculously stopped buying their product), and we'll never like it.

Anyway, I think it's less about "right" versus "wrong", and more about "right" versus "left" using the topic to divide and conquer while stimulating respective voting bases. And neither party is serious about doing anything.

Hell, alternative fuel has been mentioned in over 20 State of the Union Addresses dating back over 30 years ago (1975), by every President that has ever held office during that time. And we're still in this mess.

Unfortunately, I don't honestly think that anything will happen unless A) we're FORCED to do without Oil imports -OR- B) a brand new energy source takes hold in the marketplace... and even then, I would expect the same negative stigma to be attached to whoever succeeds in that industry.
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One thing I've never understood is why so many Americans go over to other countries and help out and take care of everyone else, but they fail to recognize that there is a big homless population here. I mean I'm all for helping out other countries, but you'd think we would try to put our own first in line.
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I don't want to "come together" with liberals - they are destroyers, everything they do wrecks and is intended to wreck this country.
You really are Full of Hate just like the Terrorists are.
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I'm sure the terrorists used the exact same words when talking about Americans.
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Didn't they use the word "destroyers" to describe America?
America is continuing to "Destroy" Iraq.
The IFs are destroying iraq. Does the US set off bombs in marketplaces? Noooooo...... Your hysterical anti-americanism has REALLY warped your perception of reality.

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It's really sad to read your replies here.
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You label everyone.
Your problem with labels would be exactly what??

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I guess it's easier to hate when you put labels on people.
No, it's easier to hate when you see a particular group of people destroying my country.

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Does it help you sleep better at night?
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Since your country is divided 50 -50 I guess that mean you must hate half the people in your country.
Mostly the dem leaders - they marshall a lot of uniformed brainwashed dupes.

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The think you fail to realize is that those people you label "liberals" are AMERICANS!!
Yeah, and Oswald Mosely was a BRITAIN!!

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BOTH Dems, AND REPS have caused the problems in America.
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Both parties have been in power and have NOT changed things to stop the gap between the haves and the have nots like the topic of this thread is all about.
Parties in power of little business changing any so called "gap". Socialists want people to be equal - equally poor.

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Try putting your labeling hate aside and actually proving me wrong instead of spewing your racist hatred comments.
Whaaaaattttttttt???????????
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One thing I've never understood is why so many Americans go over to other countries and help out and take care of everyone else, but they fail to recognize that there is a big homless population here. I mean I'm all for helping out other countries, but you'd think we would try to put our own first in line.
Yea, while it is admirable to go help others, you don't have to look very far and you defenitely don't have to go outside the country to find people in need. But when you look at some of the things going on in places like Darfur, nothing like that is happening here. It's awful and it does deserve our attention.
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I don't want to "come together" with liberals - they are destroyers, everything they do wrecks and is intended to wreck this country.
Boy, that's a really sad statement Jake - and unfortunately it says a lot more about you than it does about "them".

Seems to me that "they" don't accept your definition of "this country" - since it seems to leave them out.

Seems to me, that this is a problem you have to deal with - and if your only "solution" is to vote in another guy like Bush, then you've lost before you've even started.

Let's face it, Bushie has done more to wreck this country than any other President in my living memory - and while he started out in roughly the same "no compromise" camp that you seem to be in, any astute observer would have to say at this point that he's become a bit more "liberal" in that regard lately.

Hey, let me ask you a question - is "redistribution of wealth" only equivalent to socialism when it flows top-down? How about when the money flows from the poor to the rich, is that socialism too? Think about it.....
Listen to me, you geetar playing yokel - in the very unlikely event I require your opinion on anything, I'll ask for it.
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Tell ya what, why don't you and other Republicans commit yourselves to reducing the growing income and wealth gap in the US and we'll engage in much less "Bush bashing." Until then, don't pretend that your party is significantly committed to any objectives other than somehow rescuing its well-deserved reputation for mismanagement and blaming everyone else for the problems that only got worse during its watch.
Tell your party to come up with more ideas than taking money from people who work and giving it to people who don't work or taking money from people who made the right choices in their lives and giving it to those who didn't and then maybe we can have a serious discussion.
Tell your party to come up with more ideas than silly talking points and then maybe we can have a serious discussion.
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Why dont BOTH parties stop pointing the finger and playing silly games, and instead focus on what is important??

That is a good HONEST dialogue where our politicans do what they were hired to do, and that is to do what is best for the American people.
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