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Old 06-17-2007, 02:43 PM
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Default Why do Nazis, KKK, and Muslims want Jews harmed/dead?

I understand why Muslims do, since this concept is repeated many times in the Islamic texts (for instance it says "don't take Jews or Christians as friends", and among Mohammad's last words were "may Allah curse the Jews and Christians"), but why do Nazis and the KKK?

Please comment....especially why in today's modern, civilized world, they still cling to those outdated beliefs.

(I personally know plenty of Jews, and have nothing against them whatsoever.)
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Old 06-17-2007, 02:56 PM
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(I personally know plenty of Jews, and have nothing against them whatsoever.)[/quote]

So do I, but I still think there's something slightly suspicious about them as a group. I can tell you why the Nazi's hated the Jews, did'nt they think the jews were running down German society or something? As for the Muslims, well I don't particulary think there in a postion to dislike Jews, they need to sort out there own mob. All the Jews i've met seem nice enough people, there is however something pecular about how they stick together as a group and of course that draconian concept called Judiasm.
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In my experience, and I am from the southern US and have met several of these people, they are for the most part uneducated, poor, and extremely devoid of any social etiquette. I think of these people (neo-nazis and KKK members) the way I think of feral cats. When a mother cat is pregnant and diseappears into the woods to have her babies.....and doesn't return for several weeks and bring her kittens home to meet her human owners....well, they are angry, scared, and fanatical little kittens. You can't come near them.......they reach an age where, no matter what kind of care and affection you try to give them....they will always have that wild, angry side. They will try to scratch you and bite you because they are scared and untrusting. I think of nazis and kkk members this way, not to give them an excuse, but to call them out for what they are: Angry, Isolated, Barbarians who were never taught how to function successfully in society.
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(I personally know plenty of Jews, and have nothing against them whatsoever.)[/quote

So do I, but I still think there's something slightly suspicious about them as a group. I can tell you why the Nazi's hated the Jews, did'nt they think the jews were running down German society or something? As for the Muslims, well I don't particulary think there in a postion to dislike Jews, they need to sort out there own mob. All the Jews i've met seem nice enough people, there is however something pecular about how they stick together as a group and of course that draconian concept called Judiasm.
Thanks for the quick reply.

Even if those 3 groups do indeed have some suspicions about Jews (again, I myself do not) isn't it appalling that all 3 groups want Jews DEAD!? Isn't that an unbelievable over-reaction on their part?

That is COMPLETELY un-justified, in no uncertain terms, don't you agree?

Also, how long are we willing to let the Muslims sort out there own mob (like you mention) before they finally stop wanting to kill Jews? Or will Muslims, since they follow the "immutable word of god" (the Islamic texts) that say to harm/kill Jews, NEVER stop doing that?

I look forward to your comments.

Thanks.
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...Angry, Isolated, Barbarians who were never taught how to function successfully in society.
Good post. Thanks.

That's probably the best explanation of this phenomena regarding Nazis and the KKK that I've heard.

But since Muslims, today, pose the biggest threat to Jews, by far (for example, incredibly, the Iranian PRESIDENT hosted a Holocaust-denying conference, and invited as a special guest former KKK Grand-wizard David Duke!) don't you also apply this same condemnation to Muslims as well? You completely left them off of your analysis.

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Hi freedom seeker. As far as i'm concerned, it's one group of cemented serpents [muslims] calling another group [jews] serpants. I'm sure we'd both agree, there are good Muslims too but I just think it really is farcial what they believe in, they take themselves far too seriously What can we do about it, i'm probably a believer in Jews fighting for themselves and doing stuff like coming on here and debating their case. I think we get enough Holocaust stuff rammed down our throat every day of the week.

But to more specifically answer your question, there is no justification for killing someone, any so called "religion" that does so is pursueing other side show agenda's, thats where the real conspiracy lies.
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Germany in the 1940's was undergoing an economic depression due to the Central Powers losing WWI, and a lot of people saw wealthy Jewish families and they envied them. Anti-Semitism grew out of control and the Nazis appealed to this and then Hitler and yadda yadda yadda.

The KKK used to not even be a racist organization. It was a social fraternity. But when it became one, it was only against blacks...Not until recently have they taken an anti-Semitic approach. In the 1930's during its revival, it had to expand its audience to get more support. It started publicly speaking out against not only Black, but Hispanic, Asian, and Jewish people. The wider audience gained them more support, and even most congressmen were members of it.
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Their ideologies are weak, and the Jews provide a convenient scapegoat. Because they are intelligent, yet reclusive. So they are perfect fodder for ridiculous conspiracy theories.
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In my experience, and I am from the southern US and have met several of these people, they are for the most part uneducated, poor, and extremely devoid of any social etiquette. I think of these people (neo-nazis and KKK members) the way I think of feral cats. When a mother cat is pregnant and diseappears into the woods to have her babies.....and doesn't return for several weeks and bring her kittens home to meet her human owners....well, they are angry, scared, and fanatical little kittens. You can't come near them.......they reach an age where, no matter what kind of care and affection you try to give them....they will always have that wild, angry side. They will try to scratch you and bite you because they are scared and untrusting. I think of nazis and kkk members this way, not to give them an excuse, but to call them out for what they are: Angry, Isolated, Barbarians who were never taught how to function successfully in society.
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call them out for what they are: Angry, Isolated, Barbarians who were never taught how to function successfully in society
I would also call them COWARDS - everyone from grandfathers to grandsons of KKK members - cowards all.
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