I don't feel like speculating on other's stupidity.

A classic Marxist flaw. There is always a choice. As long as the person is free to leave a job and find another, he has choice. It is only if the employer prevents the employee from leaving the job through force, that choice ceases to exist.

Do you have a point or do you just like talking? Its not the government's duty to create jobs. So how is your statement even relevant?

Well when a President says hes going to create jobs, I hold that President to it. Thats how its relevant. When he says hes going to create jobs, hed better keep to his word.

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Well try this one on.... not everyone does the same job. Different jobs yield different fruits. Some jobs require more merit than others. Some jobs require more effort. Why should I get equal pay for watching the desk at the library, as the president of the United States who is responsible for protecting every person in the country?! I think he deserves much more of a reward for his job, than I do for mine. Equal pay means equal merit. But equal merit is fiction. The bottom line is some people are better than other people at certain things. And if everyone gets equal pay for jobs, no matter what job, then define what a job is. What if I say my job is to stay at home and watch T.V? Shouldn't I get equal pay for doing that, as a professor gets for drawing up his lesson plans?

And as far as "equal rights" go... What about my right to do the work I want to do and get payed the rewards that I deserve to be payed in proportion to the job that I accomplished? What about my right to contract? My right to property? Don't even come in here spouting your socialist crap, and then make an appeal to "equal rights" [read in a nasally voice]. There are no equal rights when the right to property and the right to contract are destroyed by the government. Don't tell me that equal rights means that you have a right to what I own. My right to my property overrides your "right" to have the equivalent of what I have. Nature is not inherently equal. Don't try and make it so. The government must treat people in an equal manner, but it does not have a duty to cause a societal de facto equality to spring into existence. All men are inherently equal in the eyes of the government, and in the eyes of God. But in the eyes of one another we are all unequal. Some people deserve more than other people.

I think it will always turn into one of those, and it will always be a bad thing if it does.

[quote=mpotter";p="36298]You can't get a job when no demand for one exists. WHy should the government create more chemistry jobs, if they obviously aren't needed? How can that possibly help the economy. Not everyone gets to work where they want to work. Sometimes you work where you need to work. Its a fact of nature.

The problem is that in a socialist system... you don't benefit from the money you pay if you have any merit. Only the lazy benefit. The ones with merit do all the work, and get paid the same as the ones who don't.

[quote="pinniped";p="36830"]...and if you add to that sales tax at over 7% here in California, quote]

I think the sales tax is higher than 7% in Cal. Its more like 8 or 8.5 %.

Funny I thought this was a forum on communism/socialism.... not whether presidents keep their promises. In other words.... your statement is not relevant.