This is a continuation of the old thread that was locked for being too lengthy.

What are your views? When the next American Revolution comes about, what will you do?

What philosophers can you identify with?


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You are really an idiot. Communism doesnt work.

Oh, but communism does work. Ask any multinational corporation that hires out there. There's more work for communists whose benefits come from the government than there are here in the free world expecting coverage from our employers.

Capitalism can't exist these days without it.

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Got a link to that thread so I can read where y'all have been, and maybe catch up to where you are now?

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Communism doesnt work. By the way, I cant seem to find the USSR on my map.........

I consider myself to be a Socailist. I wrote a bit on why I think Socialism is the best course of action, I'd really like it if you would read it...

In the intrest of space, I'll just link you to it.. Please feel free to argue with me

http://www.freewebs.com/libertarians.../manifesto.htm

PLEASE GIVE ME FEEDBACK!!

Whew...I'm already doing 3-4 boards, I'll try to work that in. I'm rusty on political philosophers, but I'm basically familar with theories...none of which I've found to be directly practical.

However, I've found it intriguing that capitalism has morphed into an entity that requires socialism in recent corporate developments, particularly in Pfizer's new offering of free/low cost prescription drugs to people not covered by insurance, but to cover that cost is charging more to insurance companies. Classic redistribution of wealth based on need, committed by a capitalist. It amazes me no end.
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I just checked out your link, and I gotta say that's one long, loooong article to tackle. I just scanned it and there are some interesting points worthy of discussion. But I gotta say, I'm gonna have to take that one a bit at a time.

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Ok, I've got a first comment on the first couple of paragraphs. You begin by skimming over all the bad things about capitalism and then offer socialism as a cure for capitalism's ills, as if we haven't already learned from socialist history's failures (the USSR), without learning from laisez-faire capitalism's failures (Mafia).

However, as I mentioned in my comment about Pfizer, capitalism is itself morphing into socialism, seeming to come full circle and rather proving the Marxist theory of Thesis Antitheses, Synthesis. We are in fact witnessing the synthesis of...what?...emerging from capitalism. You might take advantage of these current observations to take a more persuasive approach to your own thesis.

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Comment about elitism--you don't cover enough kinds of it in your article. There's some good types of elitism, believe it or not, and that would be skill level, knowledge level, seniority, tho I hesitate to use the term "seniority" in terms of a labor union because I've seen that abused as a reason to get paid for doing nothing...like it is with "tenure". Guilds of old were corrupt, as well, and abusive.

The irrefutable fact is that different people have different levels of skill, and in an "ideal society" (I'm sorry, but that phrase immediately turns off all of us who know darn well nothing is ever ideal, that corruption sets in over time--the longer the time, the higher the level of corruption)...in an "ideal society", those of senior level or mastery level skills would also teach. The less actually productive they become as they age, the more time would be better spent teaching.

Disagree also with your assessment of democracy where all are equal--I still believe that's mob rule and I'll defend the greater virtues of a representative republic because tho we're all equal in a one-man-one-vote sense, we're all very different indivuduals. Where a group of individuals can live differently than another group of individuals but still have equal impact on government, that's more fair than a bigger group dominating a smaller group. Each can live the way they choose without dictating to the other.

When ya live like you want to and your neighbors can live like they want to and nobody's rights steamroller anybody else's rights, THAT'S what real liberty's all about.

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All Socialism is is Communism-light. Same ideas, same crap, but different kinds of dictators.